Quote Originally Posted by Ramaza View Post
You assumed wrong. I'm making this argument for the fact that we can't keep with a lot of DDs in the game.
Well I'm sorry you implied that Ruinator allowed BST to keep up with DDs here:
Quote Originally Posted by Ramaza View Post
As someone who regularly parses I beg to differ. The Ruinator WS is quite literally the only way we can keep up these days.
Quote Originally Posted by Ramaza View Post
and yes WE ARE A DD CLASS just like any other pet job.
If you broke the classes down to something rudimentary like Healer and DD then sure BST would go under DD.

Quote Originally Posted by Ramaza View Post
Its the community at large that continues to treat the class as the throw away position the class is currently in, and for good reason, because its a challenge to even keep up with other DD let alone be competitive. And no it would not make us overpowered, giving us Dual wield 2-3 isn't going to make us do better than a well geared Ukon/Resolution WAR or DRK or a weall geared SAM or a well geared DRG. One handed DD already have it rough versus 2 handers and the Motenten spreadsheets (dat math) can prove that.
My community (the people I regularly play with) loves my BST, PUP, and SMN. You know in those situations where they are a bigger benefit over my other jobs.

Quote Originally Posted by Ramaza View Post
Double attack+10% won't bridge a gap like that to borderline brokeness, neither will 25% attack bonus from Berserk, but what it can do is make us more competitive and attractive in a party situation. Even when you factor in Snarl its still not as broken as your over exaggerating it to be, do to the fact that most of the things worth doing anymore have powerful AoE's, so the pet is bound to die sooner or later even with max potency reward and recast down. Just like DRG with Jumps/Super Jump down we have just as much chance to die even with our hate erase abilities.
Like I said you're looking at BST as if it was supposed to be a heavy DD and not a utility job.

In the utility role DA+10% alone is enough to bring it to another level (look at BST pre DA Ganelon and post). Further add in the 25% Attack and factor in that you have 0 draw backs in most of the situations BST excels at and you have an overpowered job.