Devs: Familiars - piercing attack type?

[Zagen]

Keep in mind that these limbus issues you're talking about are not bst-specific. What do you think MNKs think about blunt-immune floors? How do you think DRGs enjoy piercing-immune floors?

Considering there's Vampiric Claws for slashing and Birdbanes for piercing, I don't think they care. Maybe that's what we should be asking for, axes that deal blunt and piercing damage.

Actually I think MNK has access to a set of piercing-type claws. That or slashing. DRGs on the other-hand are SoL.

Most swords a DRG can use are slashing (I'm pretty sure just Joyeuse is the exception), DRG also gets Staff.

All that said due to how BST currently works it just doesn't make sense imo to make weapons to get around this issue over a pet.

[Delvish]

Actually I think MNK has access to a set of piercing-type claws. That or slashing. DRGs on the other-hand are SoL.

[Morier]

Actually I think MNK has access to a set of piercing-type claws. That or slashing. DRGs on the other-hand are SoL.

DRGs have a blunt polearm.

[Logandor]

Well not to be a bore or anything but before doing Limbus I tend to look on wiki, bg, and the ls website for which floors a beast master can solo. The ones with the issue of piercing > slashing I turn to the ls and snag a friend or two to go with me. Yes this means less coins in the end of the run per person but it also means you can clear those floors that would ultimately be a no go for soloing. As much as a new pet would be nice, especially one as mentioned in other player's posts, I just do not see s.e. adding to the pet list. I mean no offense in saying this but they did give us a pet with no special attacks. If they could stop and revamp that particular pet it would be nice.

[Zagen]

Well not to be a bore or anything but before doing Limbus I tend to look on wiki, bg, and the ls website for which floors a beast master can solo. The ones with the issue of piercing > slashing I turn to the ls and snag a friend or two to go with me. Yes this means less coins in the end of the run per person but it also means you can clear those floors that would ultimately be a no go for soloing. As much as a new pet would be nice, especially one as mentioned in other player's posts, I just do not see s.e. adding to the pet list. I mean no offense in saying this but they did give us a pet with no special attacks. If they could stop and revamp that particular pet it would be nice.

If you're going that route BST has access to Aluh Jambiya among other daggers and gets Evisceration. Hiko already gave the solution:

C+ dagger skill is enough for 75 content

As to "fixing" Slippery Silas SE said it was supposed to be a pet for show. I'm not sure why we'd want one for show but that was the logic in not giving it any abilities. Though I'm not sure why you tried to associate it with a piercing pet as Poroggos the family attack with their heads or a staff neither of which would be visually associated with piercing attacks.

[Rwolf]

I'd be happy in general to see more variety in pets. A piercing type would be nice to have. More support types that have area abilities that work on the party like Lucky Lulush, but expanded into areas such has party buffs. I'd also like to finally see a Black Mage pet. Not casting magic but monsters as pets who have a variety of elemental based attacks (i.e. Wamoura, Ruszors, etc.) and are given Magic Attack Bonus. Already broke the mold of charm-only pets with Crude Raphie. Might as well make things more interesting. I think personally it wouldn't be stepping on the toes of any other job and it would overall facilitate more use out of Beastmaster in a party setting if it is done correctly.

So after doing limbus and checking wiki today, i notice we have NO piercing "attack" familiars to use.

SE apollyon - floor 1
Weak to slashing, immune to blunt.

Ok almost 90% r slashing pets, and bst axes r slashing, no issue

Floor 2
Weak to piercing, immune to slashing.

Here is my issue,
With bst main 2 weapons being slashing type (axe/scythe); i can not help at all and on this floor i have to use a pet with blunt dmg type, which slows things down and u r timed. And wow, dont let the mobs link with the shared hate or else a normal 2 min mob becomes a 10+min battle(2hr-ing does help kill faster but not my point)

Regarding Limbus specifically, I always use Flowerpot Merle for the 2nd and 3rd floor of SE Apollyon. Wild Oats counts as piercing damage and since the 3rd floor is blunt damage weakness, I swap to using Head Butt. To contribute on the 2nd, I just use daggers with Evisceration to speed up kills.

[Umichi]

need piercing expert? bring a drg. just sayin *raises hands up and shrugs shoulders*

[Mirage]

Considering there's Vampiric Claws for slashing and Birdbanes for piercing, I don't think they care. Maybe that's what we should be asking for, axes that deal blunt and piercing damage.


Most swords a DRG can use are slashing (I'm pretty sure just Joyeuse is the exception), DRG also gets Staff.

All that said due to how BST currently works it just doesn't make sense imo to make weapons to get around this issue over a pet.

Actually I think MNK has access to a set of piercing-type claws. That or slashing. DRGs on the other-hand are SoL.

I know this, and it was sort of my point. All other jobs need to take off their main weapons and resort to a weapon with far less damage output to be able to kill certain Limbus mobs. BST is in the exact same situation with their lack of piercing pets. They have to rely on daggers, while using a pet that deals damage the monster is strong to, but not immune to. Also, they can still make their pets tank the monsters by using Snarl, even if the pet doesn't deal a lot of damage on their own.

Bst needs to use dagger on things that are immune to blunt and slashing. Drg needs to use a sword on things that can only be damaged by slashing, while they have to use a staff (they have B-something in this after all) combined with wyvern damage for blunt. Mnk has the two earlier options, both of which do not give access to things like Vsmite, and even if it did, they would not take any damage from WSes because WS damage type never changes.

Thinking about it, mages, thieves and dancers are probably far worse off than most other jobs, with their terrible h2h and sword skills.

[Case6888]

Wow...u guys really take a thread and blow this shit outta proportion...

I REALIZED IT LIMBUS WHICH IS Y I USED IT AS THE EXAMPLE....

Im not asking to get a new damn familiar to use only for limbus....
Esp when i already have cyclone since posting this....
So if u dont wanna be beneificial to promoting new types of familiars go away

[Zagen]

Wow...u guys really take a thread and blow this shit outta proportion...

I REALIZED IT LIMBUS WHICH IS Y I USED IT AS THE EXAMPLE....

Im not asking to get a new damn familiar to use only for limbus....
Esp when i already have cyclone since posting this....
So if u dont wanna be beneificial to promoting new types of familiars go away

Except Limbus is the only zone that piercing damage type is a major factor so why ignore it? Unless you're interested in a non damage type pet.