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    Consoles have better games than PCs. There, I said it. Console gamers are also less weird than PC gamers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackstin View Post
    Consoles have better games than PCs. There, I said it. Console gamers are also less weird than PC gamers.
    Yeah, except you're wrong. Especially within the last couple of years, consoles have been getting fewer and fewer exclusives as more and more developers move to the PC and Steam, due to Microsoft and Sony's shiatty business practices.

    There isn't anything about a console that makes games on it better. It's simply cheaper so many people who can't own a PC can own a console.

    Beyond that, whether or not one game is better than another is entirely your subjective opinion and if you made a list of games that you compared to games on the PC I'm sure I could personally dispute all or nearly all of them, because we may not even like the same kinds of games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Yeah, except you're wrong.
    You agree to disagree or are you contradicting yourself?

    Consoles ae standardized hardware meaning that each unit is nearly identical hardware wise. There are no hardware incompatibilities and you don't need to upgrade hardware constantly.

    Unless everyone is running on the same PC or nearly identical system PCs do have a limitation that consoles don't. Each system is totally unique. A PC can have mullions of hardware/software configurations. Consoles can have several setups but they are matched much better universally then the average PC.

    I bet my PC and yours doesn't have a single matching part equipped to it! On the other hand I have 4 PS3's. The PS3's all run PS3 software flawlessly and there is no special drivers or hardware requirements aside from HDD space. It's simple to understand. Consoles are much more user friendly especially now that windows 8 is out. Also I haven't seen a low end PC run native PS3 software yet.

    These things that make consoles static give make them have a longer user life then a high end PC that "NEEDS" updated every 1-3 years or new software starts becoming incompatible with them. Consoles remain compatible with new software most of the time until end of life.

    If This was on the PS3 or PS4 it'd probably run just as good as the PCs run it today with the exceptions of those 3rd party tools people talk about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Yeah, except you're wrong. Especially within the last couple of years, consoles have been getting fewer and fewer exclusives as more and more developers move to the PC and Steam, due to Microsoft and Sony's shiatty business practices.

    There isn't anything about a console that makes games on it better. It's simply cheaper so many people who can't own a PC can own a console.

    Beyond that, whether or not one game is better than another is entirely your subjective opinion and if you made a list of games that you compared to games on the PC I'm sure I could personally dispute all or nearly all of them, because we may not even like the same kinds of games.
    Yeah but PC gamers only like PC games because they're basement dwelling oddities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackstin View Post
    Yeah but PC gamers only like PC games because they're basement dwelling oddities.
    Logical fallacy alert. Stereotypes don't help your argument, and just as many console gamers are basement dwellers.

    Consoles ae standardized hardware meaning that each unit is nearly identical hardware wise. There are no hardware incompatibilities and you don't need to upgrade hardware constantly.
    If you build your PC properly the first time, it will last years before really needing an upgrade. Not "constantly."

    I bet my PC and yours doesn't have a single matching part equipped to it!
    Yet, in all probability, we can probably play most if not all of the same games on them. Your point lacks merit.

    PS2 Limitations severely hindered FFXI's ability to grow and expand. With FFXIV using PC as the primary platform, the issue won't be as big of a deal, but it's still better to just keep the game on the one platform it's most suited to. With FFXI, if it was a PC game first, we'd likely have had a better UI from the beginning, graphical upgrades over time, more fixes and content more quickly, and more often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    If you build your PC properly the first time, it will last years before really needing an upgrade. Not "constantly."
    Oh so you think comparing $2400+ for an advanced computer to a under $500 console accounts not needing to updated constantly? Your logic hides the fact that building a computer right means spending much more then whats needed for current gen games. A console out of the box is 1/5 the cost of a long term invested PC. It's usable life is 5-10 years and in that time the console gets cheaper but still plays all the new games until it's end of life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Yet, in all probability, we can probably play most if not all of the same games on them. Your point lacks merit.
    I don't know where you've been getting your info but there are a lot of FFXI incompatible computers out there. Just look at the supported video cards. That list has more merit in what I'm saying then the entire context of this topic. A lot of the new laptops can't run it because the video cards aren't supported.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    PS2 Limitations severely hindered FFXI's ability to grow and expand.
    Let me ask you this, Why did you join an MMO that was SEVERELY limited by PS2 limitations when you could've played everquest or something like EVE? If you didn't chose FFXI the first time you wouldn't be here complaining about the limitations. The truth is the PS2 is what created the biggest expansion of players when it launched on PS2 they population skyrocketed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    With FFXIV using PC as the primary platform, the issue won't be as big of a deal, but it's still better to just keep the game on the one platform it's most suited to. With FFXI, if it was a PC game first, we'd likely have had a better UI from the beginning, graphical upgrades over time, more fixes and content more quickly, and more often.
    They can't even keep support XP OS compatible even though the end of is life in 2014.

    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...ucts/lifecycle

    So, what's that say? It says they could be losing massive amounts of money because there is to much competition in the market. If they continue with the same support practices they provide in FFXI it won't go well with new customers. FF14 flopped first time out most people hated it. People are fickle when they just start out if it's not user friendly they don't stick around. It didn't generate interest and had a lot of negative hate.

    When FF11 was launched there wasn't as much competition and console based online games where just starting out. Sqaresoft and the FF series had a much stronger devoted following. The console version and setup was easy to understands and less complex then it is today to setup an account.

    All in all there won't be a PS3 or PS4 version, the PC version might end up having a short life too. With all the cuts to support etc. The FFXI online market is digging its own grave and people who want the best of everything aren't going to save it.
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