Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
So what people are saying in this thread is:

People who are good with computers don't get hacked. [..]
That's not at all what I'm saying. You really do not need to be good with computers at all. Most of the protection is done for you. When was the last time you manually upgraded your anti-virus program? Or your operating system? Or performed an anti-virus check? It all happens automatically now. There's hardly anything at all you have to do. When you install Windows 7 and start it for the first time it even prompts you to install an anti-virus program and offers you several choices. You do not need to browse the web to search for them or anything like that. It does the same for browsers. Most of them have some secure options enabled by default as well.

And all of that is still only needed if you're not careful about visiting random links suspicious people post, otherwise you wouldn't need any of that either.

Still not convinced? Use a token. That's as perfect as protection gets. The only way to get hacked using a token is to hijack a live running session, and a) that may happen outside of your local network, so it could happen on consoles as well, and b) I have never heard of that happening and I seriously doubt RMT use that because it's not something any script kiddie can achieve. And if they actually did hijack your session, they don't actually obtain your password, only a currently running session. That means they can't actually change your password, or prevent you from just logging in again (or a friend, if it was indeed a local attack and they're intercepting communications with SE's servers) and thereby logging them out automatically. So that is only effective if you're actually afk when it happens.

I set up a perfectly secure computer for my brother the other day, from zero (perfectly as in reasonably for any and all kinds of gaming and general internet transactions). Took about two hours, and all I did was click "next" and confirm updates suggested to me by the system. Not once did I have to turn on my brain to actually make a decision until it offered me a list of anti-virus software, and then I may have just selected one by random as well. You can go ahead and call that "good with computers", I'd rather call people who can't do that lazy (or functionally retarded, whichever you find less offending).