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    Switching Systems Question

    I have a question, I think I know the awnser to, but I want to be 100% sure.

    With the new expansion comming out I've unwillingly bought a 360 to be able to play it. I am getting a copy of the 360's 2006 collection (For free, to hold me over till release of the newer SoA collection disc.), and it does not have WotG. My account for my PS2 has all the add-on's/expansions. When I install and add my account I know I will have access to everything un-WotG wise, but my question is. Since I don't have an install disc for WotG, will I be able to still access it through the update? Or am I stuck with out it till I get the new SoA collecters disc?

    (I can still play on PS2, just wanting to try and get ready/used to the xbox controles.)
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    You can probably buy a gamepad for the 360 that has the same layout as the PS2/3's controller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunnerie View Post
    I have a question, I think I know the awnser to, but I want to be 100% sure.

    With the new expansion comming out I've unwillingly bought a 360 to be able to play it. I am getting a copy of the 360's 2006 collection (For free, to hold me over till release of the newer SoA collection disc.), and it does not have WotG. My account for my PS2 has all the add-on's/expansions. When I install and add my account I know I will have access to everything un-WotG wise, but my question is. Since I don't have an install disc for WotG, will I be able to still access it through the update? Or am I stuck with out it till I get the new SoA collecters disc?

    (I can still play on PS2, just wanting to try and get ready/used to the xbox controles.)
    Why would you buy an xbox when you clearly have a PC you could play it on?

    Yes, you can hook your PC up to a TV and play on your couch, if you're going to tell me that's why.

    Somewhat snarky comment aside, I'm not really sure what you're asking. If you don't have WOTG installed, you can't access WOTG areas or content, regardless of whether you have it on your account or not. You will not recieve the expansion data from patching. From the sound of it that should answer your question.
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    Maybe he or she simply does not want to move his or her (possibly noisy and huge) computer to the living room. Or maybe they don't want to move their 50" TV into the computer room. Or maybe they don't have any more free HDMI inputs on their TV, and don't feel like messing with a HDMI switch. Or maybe something completely different.
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    Wife plays with me, she plays on the PC. I'm not into spending $500+ for a pc/laptop when i can get the xbox for $125.

    Ok I figured I wouldn't be able to, just wanted to be sure. Since I'm getting to SoA collection, I'll just hang to the side with the PS2 untill then.

    Edit: All HDMI are full, Yes I prefer my 42" over a smaller screen. Both are in the same room. lol

    Edit2: No I hate PC's/laptop/notbooks. I work on them, I know what's possable to happen to them. Viruses, hacks, Key loggers ect.. I prefer a safer way to game.
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    WoTG requires data files off a disc to play, it's not just downloaded through SEs update servers like the recent mini-addons from the past couple years.

    It's stupid, and something they should address, but they won't.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Edit2: No I hate PC's/laptop/notbooks. I work on them, I know what's possable to happen to them. Viruses, hacks, Key loggers ect.. I prefer a safer way to game.
    You can get key logged hacked etc anywhere. Even on the xbox (though it's harder). FFXI does not use xbox servers, therefore your traffic with the game is no more or less secured than it is for anyone on the PC. You're only kidding yourself if you think it's safer. Safe computing practices protect you from all the things you described better than the xbox or any server side security can. It's also kind of funny that you seem to place a higher value on the security of your gaming than of your work...

    Also beware people playing on a PS3, as the hardware encryption keys for the system were supposedly leaked recently, making it much easier to hack on the PS3. The same thing could concieveably happen to the xbox, or any computing hardware you can imagine.

    TL;DR: The safest way to game is to be smart, understand security threats and how to protect yourself from them, rather than relying on your machine to do it for you.

    WoTG requires data files off a disc to play, it's not just downloaded through SEs update servers like the recent mini-addons from the past couple years.

    It's stupid, and something they should address, but they won't.
    Do you really want to download entire expansions through SE's update servers? Do you realize how many gajillion hours that would take?
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    All you do is install everything and reactive all exp/add-ons through playonline when you log in. The CD is just to install the basic exp then it will update.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    You can get key logged hacked etc anywhere. Even on the xbox (though it's harder). FFXI does not use xbox servers, therefore your traffic with the game is no more or less secured than it is for anyone on the PC. You're only kidding yourself if you think it's safer. Safe computing practices protect you from all the things you described better than the xbox or any server side security can. It's also kind of funny that you seem to place a higher value on the security of your gaming than of your work...

    Also beware people playing on a PS3, as the hardware encryption keys for the system were supposedly leaked recently, making it much easier to hack on the PS3. The same thing could concieveably happen to the xbox, or any computing hardware you can imagine.

    TL;DR: The safest way to game is to be smart, understand security threats and how to protect yourself from them, rather than relying on your machine to do it for you.

    Do you really want to download entire expansions through SE's update servers? Do you realize how many gajillion hours that would take?
    In a nutshell: keep your Operating System up to date, Keep your preferred Virus Scanner, Firewall, and Spyware protection with the latest updates and run Active scans at least once a week. Use a more secure Web Browser and while you can still be hacked, you make someone else an easier target.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunnerie View Post
    Wife plays with me, she plays on the PC. I'm not into spending $500+ for a pc/laptop when i can get the xbox for $125.
    You can get a PC that runs FFXI for that. For $500 you could get a PC that runs pretty much every current game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Do you really want to download entire expansions through SE's update servers? Do you realize how many gajillion hours that would take?
    4~5, do it over night or at work or watch a few episodes of your favorite show.

    Quote Originally Posted by Teraniku View Post
    In a nutshell: keep your Operating System up to date, Keep your preferred Virus Scanner, Firewall, and Spyware protection with the latest updates and run Active scans at least once a week. Use a more secure Web Browser and while you can still be hacked, you make someone else an easier target.
    Or don't do any of it and use a token, you can't be hacked. And your operating system, virus scanner, firewall and spyware protection keep themselves up to date with very little user input (only the operating system may require a restart every now and then), and many of these things can be combined in one. You don't need to run any scans, that can also be done automatically, and are by default. What is a "more secure web browser"? And how else can you be hacked? You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. And how the hell do you make someone else an easier target?
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