Looking for a DD to do VW that does not req an E/R/M

[Fishyface]

Long story short im looking for a DD that i can either buy a wep or work on a magian wep for and still do decent damage in voidwatch

E/R/M for me and my situation are nearly impossible for 3 reasons

1) I have not decided on a main job yet so working on one only to switch my main the next week would be foolish.

2) I have 1, and only 1, other person i can rely on for my emp. I do not have an ls or any group of friends that i can rely on to help me with this.

3) I will not pay someone to merc my drops for me. Ive been screwed out of many other items because people split when its your time to get stuff, so im not gonna lose money over it as well.

All job suggestions and weps are welcome. No job is offlimits as im kind of neutral about all jobs.

[Draylo]

Relic and Empy are soloble, but are a large time investment if you're doing it that way. It all boils down to your commitment to getting them. There are a large variety of jobs that can solo in Abyssea with just AF3+2, BST is one of them that is easy to gear and use. Relic is in the same boat, you can solo it all since its just buying currency.(with the exception of the final magian trials which you can pay people to help you do. Farm 1.5~2m gil a dyna run on your BST and save up to pay someone to finish the trials with you.)

[SpankWustler]

If absolutely nothing else matters but the (lack of) time and effort needed to make a decent weapon, then making a Magian TP bonus Great Katana and using almost solely Tachi: Shoha is probably your best bet.

There might be some decent AH options for somebody looking to Resolution all the things, too.

[Mirage]

The best you could do is probably a TP bonus Kantonotachi on SAM and use Shoha, or maybe an OA2 greatsword on DRK for Resolution.

Those options might be pretty close to lv85 empy weapons, but good luck convincing the player base of that.

[saevel]

The best you could do is probably a TP bonus Kantonotachi on SAM and use Shoha, or maybe an OA2 greatsword on DRK for Resolution.

Those options might be pretty close to lv85 empy weapons, but good luck convincing the player base of that.

They crush their respective 85 emp counterparts. 95+ is a different story.

Mostly has to do with the first two being easy and cheap to get to 99 with minimal barriers to acquisition. OaT GSWD and Kano are both considered more then acceptable weapons @99. Kano is probably the only one that needs a 2nd thought due to the limitations of Shoha in a super buffed situation.

[Fishyface]

The best you could do is probably a TP bonus Kantonotachi on SAM and use Shoha, or maybe an OA2 greatsword on DRK for Resolution.

Those options might be pretty close to lv85 empy weapons, but good luck convincing the player base of that.

Very good suggestions thank you. I figured it would have to be either drg drk or sam but i wanted to hear what others had to say about it.

All i want to do with this DD is do VW, merit, and some other silly things like missions and such. So its really hard for me to justify spending 50% or more of my playtime everyday to soloing/duoing an emp wep instead of having fun. An emp weapon wouldnt be an issue if any of the reasons i posted above didnt apply.

[Mirage]

If they crush the 85 versions, how do they fare against the lv90 versions? Lv90 empys are a lot more common than 95+ after all, and it is what you'll "usually" see in VW pickups.

If TPbonus Kanto and oa2 GS is as good as lv90 empys, then my recommendation is stronger than I initially thought.

[saevel]

If they crush the 85 versions, how do they fare against the lv90 versions? Lv90 empys are a lot more common than 95+ after all, and it is what you'll "usually" see in VW pickups.

If TPbonus Kanto and oa2 GS is as good as lv90 empys, then my recommendation is stronger than I initially thought.

The 99 OaT GS easily beats Cada @90. Reso is a 100% STR WS so the OaT's lower DMG value doesn't impact it nearly as much as people think. The 40~45% (think the proc rate goes up at 99) proc rate means it's building TP like crazy which turns you into a Reso spamming machine.

The Kano is a "it depends" situation. 99 Kano will put out really big shoha's but doesn't have access to Fudo which has higher fTP. Shoha has an attack bonus which becomes useless once your packing six to eight songs with chaos and fighters. So really a 90 Masa and 99 Kano are about even depending on the fight and buffs. 95+ Masa beats 99 Kano and 99 Amano beats the 99 Kano.

[Fermion]

The Kano is a "it depends" situation. 99 Kano will put out really big shoha's but doesn't have access to Fudo which has higher fTP. Shoha has an attack bonus which becomes useless once your packing six to eight songs with chaos and fighters. So really a 90 Masa and 99 Kano are about even depending on the fight and buffs. 95+ Masa beats 99 Kano and 99 Amano beats the 99 Kano.

Actually when I'm buffed that high, I switch to polearm and spam Stardiver (which parses surprisingly well, thanks to TP bonus moonshade, correct gorget and belt + overwhelm). Except the few situations, such as Legion, where acc. matters (but I've heard Namas spam with an occ. atk 2-4 GK is pretty powerful in Legion as well). But back to my point, my rule of thumb is: low buffs = Kanto, high buffs = Stardiver. I don't really see where Masa fits in for me.

[saevel]

Actually when I'm buffed that high, I switch to polearm and spam Stardiver (which parses surprisingly well, thanks to TP bonus moonshade, correct gorget and belt + overwhelm). Except the few situations, such as Legion, where acc. matters (but I've heard Namas spam with an occ. atk 2-4 GK is pretty powerful in Legion as well). But back to my point, my rule of thumb is: low buffs = Kanto, high buffs = Stardiver. I don't really see where Masa fits in for me.

Yes SD + Draca is the other option for super buffed scenarios. I was merely using the most common GKT's for comparison between the big weapons.