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    Changes to contest rules/policies

    Hi,

    Wife and I have been playing this game forever (me since the usa release, her since the xbox360 version usa release) and we both still have mad love for this game. However, the contest rules really screw us over and over and over, you guys really need to change the contest rules to allow 1 entry per PLAYONLINE account, not 1 per Square-Enix account. We only wanted 1 Security Token and because of that we had to merge our PlayOnline accounts into 1 Square-Enix account. So everytime there is a contest, we have to choose which one of us will enter. It's incredibly unfair, we both pay the monthly fee just like everyone else, yet one of us (almost always me) steps aside to let the other enter the online contests.

    This problem has existed ever since the online mog bonanza, which was years ago and yet here we are again. I'm only posting this because we both want to enter the valentine's day contest (and every upcoming contest,) yet once again only my wife can enter. I know that you guys are probably doing this because of some RMT restriction or whatever your reasoning is, but it screws over long time paying customers. You think I wouldn't have loved to get the full body moogle outfit from a few contests ago? But nope, I wasn't allowed to enter... So wrong...
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Thre's nothing unfair about it. you shouldn't have merged the accounts if you wanted to enter seperately.

    Honestly, I would argue it's unfair for you to get two entries when I only get one. Most all contests are usually limited to "one per household" anyway.
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    Yes there is, Alhanelem.

    Both are paying the full monthly fee to play the game. Both should be allowed to participate in the same events.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Yes there is, Alhanelem.

    Both are paying the full monthly fee to play the game. Both should be allowed to participate in the same events.
    Then both should have kept their own accounts and paid for them seperately. Accounts are not supposed to be shared between multiple people, whether they are married, brothers and sisters, friends, or aquaintances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Then both should have kept their own accounts and paid for them seperately. Accounts are not supposed to be shared between multiple people, whether they are married, brothers and sisters, friends, or aquaintances.
    Perhaps you misunderstand the difference between SE and POL accounts. You see, they are different characters who can be logged in at the same time, they pay full membership prices for both accounts, as though they are entirely separate. It is not a different character on the same POL account, but an entirely different POL account all together. POL accounts can be tied to the same SE account, but they have very little benefit to doing so, in game, the interactions between the characters are no different than anyone else. The only real advantage I know of is that they share the same password, and that they share the satchel. Expansions, monthly fees, additional characters, all of that is tied to the POL account, but does not effect the SE account.

    The problem here is that these rules are a '1 per SE account' restriction. Me and my best friend are on the same SE account, but only 1 of us can sign up for things, we both pay full memberships, bought every expansion for each account separately. Yet even though they are 2 different POL accounts, we are treated as though we are a single person, I find this wrong. Its not as though we can even send EX items between one another, that is a POL account feature with secondary characters on an account, but has nothing to do with SE accounts. So its not as though I would have an advantage over you, but rather, me, my friend, my GF, the OP and his wife, we would all be treated fairly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Then both should have kept their own accounts and paid for them seperately. Accounts are not supposed to be shared between multiple people, whether they are married, brothers and sisters, friends, or aquaintances.
    Because at the time the tokens were released, contests up to that point were one per PlayOnline account. Those of us that merged accounts, like my husband and I, had no way of knowing the standard would change to one entry per Square-Enix account until the next contest came around after the tokens were established.

    Edit: this is why the current policy is upsetting to most of us since once merged, they cannot be unmerged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Then both should have kept their own accounts and paid for them seperately. Accounts are not supposed to be shared between multiple people, whether they are married, brothers and sisters, friends, or aquaintances.
    Why not? Married people share just about everything else in their life, sometimes including bank accounts with real money. Sharing a MMO game account is probably one of the least significant things they share in their lives, so it was probably an entirely natural thing for them to link both POL accounts to the same SE account, seeing as it lead to easier management of both accounts.

    Not only does this make sense to do for married couples, but also if you are a parent, paying for game access for several kids. There's no reason to prevent one of the linked accounts from participating in events when they have a perfectly fine reason to link them, other than being a completely square person without any ability to be flexible or understand other people's side of a story.
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    Last edited by Mirage; 02-18-2013 at 09:21 PM.

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    I'm curious to know why you decided to share a Square Enix account anyway.

    But I agree that it should be per POL ID, not Square Enix ID.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Perhaps you misunderstand the difference between SE and POL accounts. You see, they are different characters who can be logged in at the same time, they pay full membership prices for both accounts
    No, I understand the differences perfectly. However, a single SE account is still only intended for use by one person.

    If they simply kept their POL accounts on individual SE accounts, they wouldn't have had this problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    If they simply kept their POL accounts on individual SE accounts, they wouldn't have had this problem.
    So why do you seem to have a problem with them fixing this issue? After all as you just said, were they never to have made their mandatory change, it would not be effecting us anyways.
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