Changes to contest rules/policies

[Arcon]

Then both should have kept their own accounts and paid for them seperately. Accounts are not supposed to be shared between multiple people, whether they are married, brothers and sisters, friends, or aquaintances.

They could not have known that before, because it was not announced anywhere. SE gave no explanation of what an SE Account is or why people need one, only that they need one. And they already said why they did it, because they didn't want to pay for two security tokens, which is a perfectly valid reason if they live together and can share one.

However, a single SE account is still only intended for use by one person.

Why? Where does it say that or who said that? Because it certainly wasn't SE. Link me if you find anything to the contrary please, because I've never seen anything like that.

If they don't allow that (which they definitely should) then at least they should give an option to unlink SE accounts.

[Vivik]

Contest should be available to every PoL account no matter how many are under one SE account. I have my mule and my main under the same SE ID and I too think it's pretty dumb I can only enter contests on one of them. It's not like I'm not paying for both, why not be able to enter on both?

and Analhelm please don't start your ridiculous tirades up again. You were just becoming bearable and I thought some of your previous posts had a snippet of merit again.

[Alhanelem]

Contest should be available to every PoL account no matter how many are under one SE account. I have my mule and my main under the same SE ID and I too think it's pretty dumb I can only enter contests on one of them. It's not like I'm not paying for both, why not be able to enter on both?

and Analhelm please don't start your ridiculous tirades up again. You were just becoming bearable and I thought some of your previous posts had a snippet of merit again.

I haven't "started up ridiculous tirades."
You're being very rude at the moment, making this personal like that.

We did what square said, get one to make our accounts more secure, didn't know it would screw us in the long run.

Though it seems like an exaggeration to me to say you're "screwed" by not having 2 chances to get a moogle suit / insert random event trinket here, I would have to concede that there was no way you could have known ahead of time how it was going to be set up. I would find it reasonable in this case that you should be granted an exception to seperate the accounts.

[Apie]

To answer the question, we got the security token (put our accounts under 1 SQEX acccount) the day it became available for purchase, WAY BEFORE they had any contests with that restriction. If we would have been told that we would have been limited in the contests, we would have never merged. We did what square said, get one to make our accounts more secure, didn't know it would screw us in the long run.

[Mirage]

SE granting exceptions? That's a good one.

We're more likely to see a global policy change than that.

[Mirage]

You claimed that SE accounts are not intended to be shared between married couples, without having any official sources backing you up. This implies that you think you know something that others don't know.

[wildsprite]

I agree with the OP, something should be done about this policy even if it is to allow some accounts to unlink and create new ones

and Alhanelem really needs to stop speaking up with opposition on every thread, he goes into threads and speaks opposition on things he claims he doesn't oppose and he does it often, its as if he is trying to start these flame wars he claims he is not

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[Demon6324236]

I love how when I my posts are actually on topic they get deleted...

[Volkai]

From http://account.square-enix.com/agreement/us/#

Terms & Conditions

1. Registered Users
Use of the Website or Services is limited to those satisfying the following conditions:
(a) You, whether an individual or legal entity, have completed SQUARE ENIX 's registration procedures and agree to be bound by the terms and conditions of this Agreement and any other guidelines, rules, and policies set by SQUARE ENIX including without limitation our Privacy Policy(http://www.square-enix.com/na/privacy/). If there are any discrepancies between this Agreement and any other guidelines, this Agreement will precede any other guidelines;
...
(g) You agree that your Square Enix Account is non-transferable and, therefore, may not be transferred to or used by anyone other than you.

2. Square Enix ID and Password
(a) The Registered User will be solely responsible for the use and maintenance of his or her Square Enix ID and password, which will provide the Registered User with access to a Square Enix Account. The Registered User agrees to keep all registered account information updated, current and secure. Changes to account information may be made here. You may not sub-license, transfer, sell or assign your Square Enix ID or password to a third party, or allow a third party to use your Square Enix ID or Square Enix Account in any manner. Any use of the Registered User's Square Enix ID and password, even in the event that a third party uses such Square Enix ID and password, will be considered made by the Registered User and he/she will be liable for all charges and costs incurred. Regardless of the Registered User's lack of negligence or willfulness, SQUARE ENIX will not be liable for any damages caused by a third party's use of the Registered User's Square Enix ID and password. If the Registered User has reason to believe that his or her Square Enix Account is no longer secure, or in the event of a loss, theft, or unauthorized disclosure or use of his or her Square Enix ID or password stored on the Services, the Registered User must promptly notify SQUARE ENIX of the problem at http://support.na.square-enix.com/main.php?la=1&id=496.

While the quoted portions are only a small amount of the Square Enix Account Terms Of Use, I think they serve to make clear that when you make a SquareEnix account you do so as either an individual (1 person) or a single legal entity.

Either way, you have, in so doing, confirmed to SquareEnix that you are one entity, and that one entity is entitled to a single entry in such contests. This is true without regard to your awareness or ignorance of what message you conveyed to SquareEnix in registering multiple POL accounts to a single SE account.

The advantage to this is that you were indeed able to save some money, as SquareEnix allows a single entity to assign a single Security Token to multiple POL accounts. It is worth noting that under the Security Token Terms of Use:

4. Once the Security Token is shipped to and received by you, you will assume sole ownership of, and be solely responsible for, the Security Token.

(Security Token Terms of Use are available at the same URL as Square Enix Account Terms of Use.)

So, in short:
1) a single entity (one SquareEnix account) is allowed to use a single Security Token
2) a single entity (one SquareEnix account) is allowed to enter into certain contests once
3) SquareEnix previously measured 'a single entity' as a single POL account. Now, as per the SE Account Terms of Use, it can and does measure 'a single entity' as a single SE account.


I think it's pretty clear this is decided by SE, not by Tahngarthor, so talking about how Tahn is fighting a losing battle by stating what may be an unpopular view is incorrect. This is not Tahn's fight, and you can talk him down all you want but that changes nothing.

If you want to change things so that your two POL accounts are linked to two different SE accounts, the sole party that has the potential (if not actual) ability to assist you is SquareEnix, and to the end of making changes to your SE account status, you are better served by contacting SquareEnix at http://support.na.square-enix.com/co...hp?id=496&la=1 than discussing things here on the forum.



I hope this post is taken as it is intended, as informative rather than inflammatory, and that a speedy resolution to the issue that gave cause for this thread is achieved.