Revamp the way we gain experience points

[Zarchery]

I've come to the point where I don't really mind leeching, except when it's done unilaterally. That is, some goober will join a party where they are fully capable of contributing, say a level 90 character in Abyssea or a level 40 character in Crawler's Nest. Then, like 30 minutes into it, they just decide to AFK without notice. That just pisses me off. At least with Abyssea keying, the lower level guy is contributing a needed service, and with Fell-Cleave leeching there is a pre-existing agreement between the people attacking and the people leeching. Here it's just some guy who joins a party under the guise of being a contributing member and then deceives you.

[Sarick]

Why do people still thinks PL makes bad players?? IMO, a bad players will always be bad players regardless of how they get their levels???

You missed the part where good players can become bad players and bad players MIGHT become good players. The part about good players becoming bad players doesn't always mean it's their fault. Take for instance someone had a minor stroke or other health conditions like old age.

I think the main reason people think PLs are bad is because it creates a lazybones play style that in the long term may make a players skill level worse. For example, when I leveled RDM it was my responsibility to do many things at once. Now days instead of playing that job I avoid it.

The responsibility of playing a job right is to much to handle for some players and this lazybones style creates an environment to support it. Sometimes it's better for them just to avoid playing the difficult jobs if they're really bad. If this seems a bit off please go back and re-read last sentence of the first paragraph.

Conclusion, In my book most I just level to level even if I don't want to utilize the job experience. By leveling the job I can at least fulfill the completion of 99 by power leveling the easy way. The only time it becomes critical is if people want me to use a job in an important event when they know I shouldn't or I attempt to fill an important position knowing I lack the experience/skill to support it.

Simplified.

Question: Does it matter if someone cheats their way to max level?

Answer: It all depends on how they plan on using it and/or if they can learn the skills needed to play it effectively.

[scaevola]

No way man. If I can't dress as a galka in a mankini while I play, I'm out of here.

IMMERSION.

You missed the part where good players can become bad players and bad players MIGHT become good players. The part about good players becoming bad players doesn't always mean it's their fault. Take for instance someone had a minor stroke or other health conditions like old age.

Well, I think the more refined way of saying it is bad players will remain bad players INDEPENDENT of how they gain their levels. The biggest reason for this is that dead weight in an XP party was still getting XP; at 99, there comes a point relatively quickly at which you can no longer progress unless you step up your game a little bit, and I think that's always been the relevant moment regardless of how slowly or quickly we were getting XP.

[Rustic]

Well, I think the more refined way of saying it is bad players will remain bad players INDEPENDENT of how they gain their levels. The biggest reason for this is that dead weight in an XP party was still getting XP; at 99, there comes a point relatively quickly at which you can no longer progress unless you step up your game a little bit, and I think that's always been the relevant moment regardless of how slowly or quickly we were getting XP.

Of course, it used to be that dead weight in an exp party brought it to a screeching halt as far as experience was concerned.

You could tell PDQ when someone fell asleep on the job in ToAU exp PTs.