Revamp the way we gain experience points

[FrankReynolds]

Disclaimer: The following post is not aimed at anyone in particular but if the shoe fits...


I'm not really sure what the problem is? It sounds like a case of "I don't want it, but I don't want you to have it either.". I mean if you like leveling slow, it's there. If you like leveling fast, it's there. It seems to me that some people just love making other people do things their way.

Why does it make people so sad in their pants to see joey the mouth breather on a level 99 character? Are you really going to assert your mental superiority over him while simultaneously admitting that in ten years of game play you haven't figured out how to spot the retard in your group and kick him out? I mean how are you honestly going to say that you are an intelligent seasoned player who hasn't figured out how to either A) spot a moron or B) coach an inexperienced player? If you are in charge of a bunch of idiots that you chose, then what does that make you? If you did not choose those idiots on your team, then what does that make you?

Smart people kick the idiot and don't invite him again. If you keep getting screwed by the pink BST on your NNI runs, maybe the problem is not abyssea.

If you really love old exp. parties and you think they are so fun that everyone else should be doing them then make an effort to revive them. I have seen 20-30 threads about how abyssea exp. ruins the game etc., but I have yet to see even one person create a thread / link shell / group organized around the idea of actually getting together a group of people who like that method of leveling succeed. There is a reason for that.

Wanting to slow other people's progress just to make your self feel more accomplished is a pretty pointless endeavor.

[Horadrim]

Disclaimer: The following post is not aimed at anyone in particular but if the shoe fits...


I'm not really sure what the problem is? It sounds like a case of "I don't want it, but I don't want you to have it either.". I mean if you like leveling slow, it's there. If you like leveling fast, it's there. It seems to me that some people just love making other people do things their way.

Why does it make people so sad in their pants to see joey the mouth breather on a level 99 character? Are you really going to assert your mental superiority over him while simultaneously admitting that in ten years of game play you haven't figured out how to spot the retard in your group and kick him out? I mean how are you honestly going to say that you are an intelligent seasoned player who hasn't figured out how to either A) spot a moron or B) coach an inexperienced player? If you are in charge of a bunch of idiots that you chose, then what does that make you? If you did not choose those idiots on your team, then what does that make you?

Smart people kick the idiot and don't invite him again. If you keep getting screwed by the pink BST on your NNI runs, maybe the problem is not abyssea.

If you really love old exp. parties and you think they are so fun that everyone else should be doing them then make an effort to revive them. I have seen 20-30 threads about how abyssea exp. ruins the game etc., but I have yet to see even one person create a thread / link shell / group organized around the idea of actually getting together a group of people who like that method of leveling succeed. There is a reason for that.

Wanting to slow other people's progress just to make your self feel more accomplished is a pretty pointless endeavor.

Quoted for truth.

There is absolutely no reason to lock Abyssea. You don't learn any more in Book Burns than you do in Abyssea, especially when you look at how often you find people leeching there as well.

Last I checked, I had to interview and fill out applications to join big linkshells doing endgame content -- that should be even more intense these days seeing as how established members can just abyssea up required jobs instead of finding people who already have them. The only reason you should be having trouble dealing with bad players is if you didn't do your due diligence in finding people worth doing events with. Pick ups have always sucked ass, Abyssea didn't make them any worse than they were when it was shouts for 75 climbs or CoP boss battles.

[Kari]

It's too late to make any changes. Bad players will always be bad players. Gimp players may get better with time, just don't let them be convinced that it's okay to come to a T6 Voidwatch shout with AH gear, no temp items, 3 stones, etc.

If you can't look at someone and figure out that they aren't geared/skilled enough to do what you're planning, then you're probably just as bad of a player.

Making exp boring as hell again will just make SE lose money. I'm okay with having more gimps and potential good players opposed to every new player quitting because exping sucks and all of this game's content is at 99.

[saevel]

Hey guyz I got a solution

when they release SoA they should delevel EVERYONE back to 1 and make Abyssea level 99 onry. Also make it so you don't get XP on the monster unless you SC it.

That'll sure teach everyone to really hate the game, make it so only us true players can play...

[Zarchery]

I've come to the point where I don't really mind leeching, except when it's done unilaterally. That is, some goober will join a party where they are fully capable of contributing, say a level 90 character in Abyssea or a level 40 character in Crawler's Nest. Then, like 30 minutes into it, they just decide to AFK without notice. That just pisses me off. At least with Abyssea keying, the lower level guy is contributing a needed service, and with Fell-Cleave leeching there is a pre-existing agreement between the people attacking and the people leeching. Here it's just some guy who joins a party under the guise of being a contributing member and then deceives you.