Why not? My PLD fix-it thread

[Economizer]

Quoting an entire comment and then complaining about a wall of text seems painfully out of place with each other.

I don't think your cure hate values are taking into consideration.. things like enmity reduction gear and traits...? WHM has them. PLD doesn't. Because of these, and the fact that WHM are using Cure V and topping off with Cure III.. they aren't using Cure IV hardly at all except as a backup because of enmity/MP inefficiency. So they aren't capping out enmity at nearly the pace you suggest..

You either don't play White Mage or you don't know the numbers behind curing on White Mage. Now at least you didn't suggest White Mages are spamming Cure VI, but Cure IV is the go to cure spell currently.

Go take a gander at the Cure Formula Changes thread. Now, even despite not adjusting for the WHM AF3+2 pants (if you're not casting in these you're doing it wrong), you could just plug in some basic numbers into Furen's Cure Calculator (which has been updated thanks to the testing done in the Cure Formula Changes thread), you will be able to see that Cure III/IV are way more efficient then Cure V, and cure for enough to primarily spam between Cure III/IV in most situations. The numbers grow even further apart when you calculate for the AF3+2 pants.

Granted, if enmity changed in a fashion that casting Cure III/IV is hazardous, we could see a situation where White Mages will no longer be using just their sufficient and MP efficient spells, but these situations would also favor against White Mage's current advantages it holds now in curing, which is the huge margin of MP efficiency, the inclusion of AoE cures, and even to some extent the cureskin effect (Cure VI doesn't get the full effects, so if it is regularly forced for the reduced enmity, the benefits of cureskin will be diminished).

Getting back to the point here however, Cure IV can cure for ~850+ and Cure III heals for ~450+ from any decent White Mage, with numbers very close from any Red Mage, and higher numbers from any Scholar (Aurorastorm). In the vast majority of situations you'll be able to go between Cure III/IV, and most situations not covered by this are covered by busting out even more efficient Curaga spells.

And as you eloquently pointed out, THF has enmity transfer tools.. and you have them in for TH if nothing else on anything that isn't a loot box drop

All THF can do is move enmity onto itself with Accomplice/Collaborator. Trick Attack doesn't transfer any enmity, just the enmity from the damage spike it creates.

[Chocobits]

Quoting an entire comment and then complaining about a wall of text seems painfully out of place with each other.

Fair enough.

As to the rest - sigh... we're obviously talking post-adjustment on the Cure IV... and obviously we aren't talking about Trick Attack for THF regarding WHM.... we're still dealing in "it goes with saying but I'm saying it anyways in the possibility you're somehow wrong" isms. I like contributions, I really do.. but really...? Do I need to state after every post that the scenarios I type out are obviously post-whatever-adjustments-I've-just-suggested...? And the need to attack me with comments like "u ubvoosly dun play gaem as heelrar" based on me not stating the obvious for every post?

Sheesh. Please also tell me to include a cure potency staff while I am at it! I obviously need to have my hand held!

I do acknowledge you could misinterpret my remark about Cure IV.. It goes through phases and in the past it was numerically not an efficient or wise spell to repeatedly cast due to the ridiculously low amount of cure potency we were given. That is no longer the case.. but a simple "You meant post-whatever-suggestions-you-just-mentioned right?" Instead of another small novel that only serves to reaffirm what I am already saying! Also, take into consideration that with the adjustments I suggested.. some cure potency might need to be sacrificed in order to get a decent -enmity value on our gear... So yes, Cure IV would go out of style with cure enmity values adjusted per my suggestions...! And it's not like we don't have refresh up the wazoo.. I didn't have a difficult time using Cure V back at 75 cap.. I don't see it being a problem at 99 cap..?

I know I am a genius but I feel like I am teaching the English alphabet to handicapped immigrants here. Am I really thinking at such a higher level that my meagerest afterthoughts are so profound they need clarification/reiteration at every phase?!

[Zagen]

I know I am a genius but I feel like I am teaching the English alphabet to handicapped immigrants here. Am I really thinking at such a higher level that my meagerest afterthoughts are so profound they need clarification/reiteration at every phase?!

This reminds me of a saying "There's a fine line between genius and insanity." I don't think you're on the side you think you are.