Enough is enough

[Alhanelem]

If you're so convinced the devs will never listen to us about the game or listen to us complaining about them not listening to us, then do yourself and all of us a favor and just quit now.

I'm pretty much saying this because there's really nothing good that can come out of this.

[Giers]

If you're so convinced the devs will never listen to us about the game or listen to us complaining about them not listening to us, then do yourself and all of us a favor and just quit now.

I'm pretty much saying this because there's really nothing good that can come out of this.

How do I ignore this poster?

I would agree that fixes/changes come far to slow for a game that has more the made enough money to support a much faster change/fix system. We pay to play a game, well I wouldn't expect my money to get put 100% back into the game, I do expect it to show more then the 1% we get.

-=PoL shouldn't even exsist anymore, the update method is slow and prone to failure. Why can't steam update FFXI for me?
-=The job balance well has always been pretty terrible,but it is not getting better. Too many jobs are not worth your time playing. You can play what you enjoy, an all the power to you. Somewhere down the line though it would be nice to see job diversity/demand get a bit closer.
-=Interface lag should have been dealt with so long ago it hurts to think about it.
-=Ridculous grinds (Mythic Weapons, Skill ups) an gil = power (Relic Weapons) should have also been addressed.
-=Empy weapon system is still vulnerable to gil = power it still involves groups of players of 2-6 (Most of the time) to play together which this game doesn't really place high on the priority system any more.

Some changes have been great, leveling speed increase, warps galore, ability to play more then 2 jobs end game without a crazy high invest of time/gil, removing the level cap for certain quest/fights. Now its time for the rest of the game to catch up.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

How do I ignore this poster?

Click his name.
Click "View Profile"
Select "Add to Ignore List" on the left.

[Alhanelem]

How do I ignore this poster?

I would agree that fixes/changes come far to slow for a game that has more the made enough money to support a much faster change/fix system. We pay to play a game, well I wouldn't expect my money to get put 100% back into the game, I do expect it to show more then the 1% we get.

-=PoL shouldn't even exsist anymore, the update method is slow and prone to failure. Why can't steam update FFXI for me?
-=The job balance well has always been pretty terrible,but it is not getting better. Too many jobs are not worth your time playing. You can play what you enjoy, an all the power to you. Somewhere down the line though it would be nice to see job diversity/demand get a bit closer.
-=Interface lag should have been dealt with so long ago it hurts to think about it.
-=Ridculous grinds (Mythic Weapons, Skill ups) an gil = power (Relic Weapons) should have also been addressed.
-=Empy weapon system is still vulnerable to gil = power it still involves groups of players of 2-6 (Most of the time) to play together which this game doesn't really place high on the priority system any more.

Some changes have been great, leveling speed increase, warps galore, ability to play more then 2 jobs end game without a crazy high invest of time/gil, removing the level cap for certain quest/fights. Now its time for the rest of the game to catch up.

Believe me if you're going to react that nastily to a perfectly reasonable post, I don't want to read what you have to say either.

You seem to have missed the point- Being rude and nasty doesn't get results. i totallly agree that improvements are needed. Speaking with your wallet is a lot more effective than posting "Enough is Enough! I'm totally going to stamp my foot and not really do anything to help the situation but start complaining about it a little bit more!"

The community team doesn't respond to nasty provocative threads and posts. If they respond to anything, it's posts that are being thoughtful and constructive. If you're going to ignore list me for that, that's just silly- if someone is truly so dissatisfied with the game, then they should speak with their wallet and stop paying SE.

Before players will truly respond in a civil way we must be shown we are going to be treated with some respect to our opinion and ideas.

I haven't seen any instances where the community team hasn't treated people with respect for their opinions and ideas.

[Demon6324236]

You missed the point, the point is that enough angry posts might make them realize there is actually a reason for them. If you try saying something to someone, they ignore you, and you walk away, nothing is done. If you yell at them, and they ignore you, then more and more people start yelling at them too for the same reasons, eventually they will take the hint that something they are doing is bothering people, and they should probably do something different.

Right now I feel as though they have times they listen, and times they ignore. They often ignore, but when they choose to listen its nice for as long as it lasts, but sometime in the middle of their listening they slowly start to ignore more and more till they just stop caring. Lets go back to the SP abilities, when was the last time they posted in that thread? 12/6/2012... Its been months, 2 months now, before that we were getting updates every week or less, but now we have no new word on anything related to the new SP abilities. These abilities were supposed to be released months ago, but still no sign, and they are not even done sorting out what they will be so far as we know.

That thread to me is a perfect example of SE doing things both right and wrong. It started out right, with swift updates, listening to player feedback, changing their own plans for the betterment of the game, and overall respecting our input while at the same time maintaining real balance. As time went on, it went the other way, going from us being listened to and our opinions being taken into account, into a thread which we get no updates, our opinions meant nothing, and we were told about how things can be used, even when we know the mechanics behind what they suggest and know it is terrible way before it gets to the test server, let alone the live servers. Chocoburger(awesome nickname for it...) was fixed at long last with an amazing ability, that was a great example of them listening to us, RDM so far is the opposite, terrible, we asked for better, we still have nothing new to show for it.

[FrankReynolds]

The devs don't need crusaders to protect their widdle feelings from meany-weany posters. They have the delete button.

Honestly, does telling an angry person to calm down ever work? I think that you all know that you aren't doing anything but fanning the flames. Shame on you.

[Alpheus]

I came into this thread expecting show-tunes. I'm slightly disappointed.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

I came into this thread expecting show-tunes. I'm slightly disappointed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTTPwvGC0rY

[Darrt]

Somehow a common theme of emotions came about in reference to my OP as if i were sitting here foaming at the mouth while i typed it up. Lets look at this for a minute. You read my post, think it is emo and then are so bothered by it that you post a reply just to point out that i am being emo, in turn, being emo yourself. The point? Why bother posting?

This isn't a video blog like that terribad blonde chick that plagues the ffxiah "pics that make you lol" thread. I cannot convey emotions through text and those of you claiming I am just being emo are really only showing that you have nothing substantial to refute yet still feel the need to rush to SE's defense.

Again, i did not make this thread in the intent of posting issues i have with the game and then trying to formulate solutions that will be ignored or ignored. The point was to express my distaste for SE's lack of good customer service. As one poster pointed out, if you have 1 person yelling at you, so what ignore and move on. If you have a group of people yelling at you, something is wrong. Clearly is someone likes the OP that shows they feel that SE needs to improve their customer service, and currently 64 other people feel the same way. Yes that's a small margin compared to the playerbase as a whole, but seeing the small amount of people that use this forum, i'll take it.

As another poster pointed out, this game is old. I started this game as a senior in high school. Every second of my free time was used on FFXI. Once i graduated i enlisted in the USAF, got married and found i don't have the time needed for this grind (started in 2006, quit in 2008). Yes without the grind people will quickly lose interest and move on, however, SE does not advertise this game at all. If i did not subscribe to PSN magazine back in the day i would have never known this game existed. Because of this, they are not really bringing in any new players and thus, their playerbase is in similar situations to mine. We have real life commitments and cannot dedicate the same amount of time to this game that we could when we were kids. I quit this game in 2008 because of the grind, but still checked in on updates and whatnot over the years.

Don't get me wrong, i believe SE is somewhat in the right direction with content. Most events are roughly an hour which is perfectly fine. In fact when i saw SE was making the game more casual friendly i decided to return (2012) Unfortunately the sheer difficulty of things like neo-nyzul and legion means most players will never even attempt them because of the grind to make yourself effective in these events.

As another poster pointed out, i just need to find a group of people willing to do these events. This is a silly thing to post because it implies that i came here to complain that i can't solo it on my drg/rdm. This is not the case at all. I really enjoy the group aspect of this game and my fondest memories are clearing CoP with my LS friends when it was level capped (RIP EnlightenedSouls, Leviathan server).

The problem is that, as i already stated in another post, i am currently stationed in Korea and while i am online it is roughtly 2-3 AM back in the states. I've tried on multiple occasions to shout for a group for things, even on saturday and sunday when i can be on with the NA folk again. Unfortunately either no one is interested in anything besides VW or no one will help because nothing is really in it for them, or, and this one is my favorite, they have no interest in the storyline and have no missions completed to even be able to access the content (limbus / salvage). Honestly it seems like people just pay merc shells to get things done for them nowadays, which i do not have the gil to afford their outrageous prices.

I saw SE made a thread about what items people want changed. I think that's awesome and i hope it is really successful. Maybe it will inspire some other "what do you want" type threads. I know what i want. More quests like apocalypse nigh. i was so ecstatic when i finished CoP that i could finally get an ethereal earring. Now if only SE would add something like that for the rest of the mission lines. If they did i would hope they would make the reward something other than a ring / earring. I want a badass neck, waist or back piece.

But i know that there is a slim chance of that happening so i will just end with this: As another poster said, i need to put my money where my mouth (fingers) are, and indeed i shall. If you enjoy ffxi the way it is, that's great. I'm really happy for you and imma let you finish, but SE will not be receiving my 14 dollars a month for a while / ever. Depending on how SoA turns out i will probably return in 3 years when they finally finish it. Good luck to all of you who remain in Van'a'diel and whatever you are working towards.

tldr;
making a post calling me emo is redundant and hypocritical
SE is sort of on the right track with content and taking steps towards better customer service
SE needs to advertise this game
If you like this game the way it is that's great and imma let you finish
I am cancelling my content ID
See you in 3 years when SoA is finished