pup, where did you go wrong.

[Elphy]

when i left the puppet was strong, capable of soloing (valoredge) em-t mobs with little/no help and maybe dropping a repair once in a while, now its so weak it cant even survive an easy-too weak mob at 88. not a fun thing to return too.

so disapointed... in how this job turned out...

How are you not surviving ep-too weak mobs at 88? Either your skills or your gear are extremely gimped or you are just not utilizing your jobs potential. I capped guard by pulling a horde of dc+ mandies at 99 and picking them off one by one while using sharpshot auto and never feared ko. My little auto can even solo dc+ mobs with only the occasional repair.

Agreed with above. When I said, people dont realize pup can DD if work is put into it, I definitely meant mythic level pup.

I've said it before and I will say it again. Pup is a job that takes gear+SKILL, unlike other dd jobs where you can just gear them and go on auto-pilot like war, sam, etc. A good pup, although not a top dd, can certainly hold their own. I can easily out-kill most bsts in dyna for instance and can rock out Meeble, Salvage, etc. The only advantages bst has over us is the low recast timer on call beast and massive reward+ gear. Sure we have dues ex but we get a weakened auto and the normal activate timer is still 20 minutes. Should definately be reduced to 5 and meritable like call beast, esp since our autos are a little more squishy and not nearly as controllable by us.

I have seen plenty of pups out there who dont even equip an animator, use manuvers or even know the basics behind how to use them. The lack of info and the ambiguous abilities and descriptions on attachments make it so people who dont really put time into testing or reading up on the job really cripple its reputation. Then SE is further crippling us by giving us some of the worst gear selections. Its as if the devs WANT the job to fail (ie: not putting pup on Caudata Belt, thats a big middle finger from SE right there).

Regardless of the hate, I love pup and wish I was able to play it more. So tired of hearing lolpup then after being the only one left alive to finish the fight, still getting lolpup by ppl who died half way thru. So rage inducing

[Gwodien]

Then SE is further crippling us by giving us some of the worst gear selections. Its as if the devs WANT the job to fail (ie: not putting pup on Caudata Belt, thats a big middle finger from SE right there).

this is the very point im trying making, stupid comments like this where SE get confused on how to build a PET class. caudata belt is a PURE DD belt. and NOT A PET belt.

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my point is, im disapointed in how the job turned into a melee DD like drg and not a PUPPET master. kinda like how bst or smn uses their pets to do the dirty work.
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Um, no lol. DRG falls way behind other heavy DD (SAM/WAR/DRK) unless you have mythic.. and I highly doubt anyone would class a PUP "on par" with MNK for dps (especially given the skill difference and the huge amount of gear mnk gets that pup is excluded from)

yes, i would mean with mythic since we are apparently arguing best case scenarios.
pup SHOULD have bad DD without pet. my point is above. not that pup sucks, just that i figured the pet would be the main concentrated point, and not the gear it doesnt get and how the ai does all the work because maneuver manipulating is too much hassle and takes away from the ability to DD because playing a pet job is too much work if i need to constantly control the pet...

/quit

[Elphy]

this is the very point im trying making, stupid comments like this where SE get confused on how to build a PET class. caudata belt is a PURE DD belt. and NOT A PET belt.

Um its called Stringing Pummel look it up