pup, where did you go wrong.

[Gwodien]

I agree with most of your post. What most dont realize is the master can become pretty capable of damage. It just takes alot more work to do. Which makes sense. You cant expect to get all the benefits of mnk handed to you when mnk doesnt get a Cure VI spamming robot sitting behind it. Our strength has always been in versatility. Not raw damage output.

Now, that being said, I didn't understand this:

...What?

tldr at bottom. im very wordy.

yes, it was a poorly written part with no back story. basically, back in the days of 75 cap. i could essentially use melee frame/head like a bst jug pet, activate, engage, and manipulate using maneuvers to let the pet tank for me, using repair oils/+1 as a healing option and using cannibal blade for more self healing. so i could either a) stay out of mob aoe range [awesome for things like besieged and campaign] Or b) let it tank so if it hit the fan, i could gtfo safely and vary rarely ever ran into issues. (then i had to stop playing for work related issues) but now, with how far behind the tanking ability has become (basically its pretty crappy, even with blink and eva attachments still not enough. and using the harlequin frame and blm head using dread spikes is right now the Better option for tanking, shock absorber, replicator and both armor plates and its a pretty mean tank and its dps is higher because of spikes and spells, and can drain too! just have to use economizers for MP. and because its tanking, magic mortar does some impressive numbers) so that has basically made the melee frames tank side almost pure paladin in the fact that its lesser to things that werent designed to tank. but even then, the harlequin route is still far from strong enough, making all pet frames very reliant on the master doing a majority of the work and not even paying attention to it at all. (to be fair, i gave up on this job when i was watching a trio of pup/dnc using rng frames basically out do an alliance of players in aby... but not before trying outside aby, where letting the pet tank for me on an even matched mob only meant very quick death for pet and i pretty much ended up killing it while trying to change it to something else. then killed it without automaton out, for fun, as pup/dnc)

Unlike the pokemon master beast master who uses a jug too choose his pets (yes charm is rarely used due to lack of useful/charm-able mobs at 99), much shorter times on pet healing ja and the zoning thing being the only real downside to that, and if bst is farming things like dynamis without even needing to really use pet foods, but a bst without beast is pretty weak, which is why its still a pet job.

when you talk about pup being head and shoulders above the other pet classes, thats because the master is doing so much of the work that it isnt really a pet class, its basically just a DRG version of mnk with a much more controllable pet.

which is what im complaining about. this job went from being all about the pet, to neglect the pet. all you need is damage gauge and maybe some filler attachments, stormwaker frame/head or even whm head for added brokeness and dont even need to worry bout maneuvers for 90% of the fight as the AI will take care of what it needs to be doing, except in a few exceptions where it loops 1 enfeeb cause the mob is immune to it, and that will likely to be fixed soon as im sure there is a post about it below... sub something like dnc or nin and you are practically unstoppable.

im not here to complain that the job is weak. im here complaining because it was fixed backwards, imagine if the bst got a massive boost in ability to do damage, not the pet, the player, to the point where it can almost solo entirely without the pet or got a jug that let it use Imps or dragons or even worse, more then one pet. Or smn got a line of spells or JAs that meant it could use all the spells the elemental spirits had access too as long as one was out or let you control the elemental spirit entirely, making avatars obsolete as you could now spam tier V or VI spells and just release and resummon the pet with full mp...........

in short (or tldr)
pup is broken. owner almost matches the dps of a mnk, better evasion then a nin, hands free healing ability on par with most healing able classes with easy to achieve unlimited mp and, when able, capable of almost instantly doubling its dps using rng frame, you have a very Badly fixed job or one that not even the devs knew where they where going with it (like the writers from lost). a job that was supposed to be all about developing and learning to control your pet and growing as an automaton owner where not knowing what your doing meant failing and death.... and its not. which is why i stopped playing this job... its boring and too easy and i know "dont like it, quit it." and i did, started playing something else that has made me feel like a part of an MMO and not a massacre simulator. im just here to voice my disgust in what the community that proclaimed to be For pup did to this job, while they themselves had no idea what the job was all about...

that's basically it.