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    Haglaz, at this point it is hard to see how the plants can be saved. Even if they were would the Japanese people trust them? Its probably better to take the steps to shut them down permanently and go forward.
    There are lots of other plants out there already in use and more in plans for being built. It is not the same as shutting down their entire nuclear reactor system at all. Not even close.
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    from what i get, only the diiachi plant has to be buried. the others around the country shut down with the automatic fail safe systems, and are in good shape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wataruryu View Post
    Ilax this thread has a lot to do with FFIX .The power shortage is whats keeping the servers down, and we as the players wanna keep informed of the situation; Seeing as that when the power is stable then the servers can come online (That answers your question on what this has to do with FFXI). BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY stable power and warmth to the people of Japan' we play with these people online everyday and have made connections ....friends with them and we as a community wanna know whats going on and keep each apprised of the situation. That is what FFXI is supposed to be about community and friendship. Your negative comments are very counter productive to those of us concerned for our friends and family there, yes I have family there and would ask politely for you to stop the negativity. thank you
    As much i agree, i think you avoiding my main concern about it, this is a new thread that promote "http://twitter.com/TheTokyoPost/japa...quake-coverage", that could been done in one of the current 20 thread, there no point to create a new thread for this, not at all.

    Saying i am wrong on that is like telling me it would be acceptable i post a thread that promote CNN, CBS, RDI, LCN and so on.
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    Hi Folks!

    This is an interesting thread and we will ask that you try to keep the comments on topic. If you do not agree with threads posted, you are free to report them to the Moderators and we will review the contents. An open debate regarding the validity of the thread will only cause off topic conversation. Please keep this in mind.

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    @Ilax
    This thread was put up simply so we have a centralized place to share information on the current situation in Japan. I'm sorry if the title of the thread was not clear for some. I apologize for not deleting my previous thread which I started with the same purpose several days ago, as it has fallen several pages behind. It has now been deleted as that information is now superseded by information in more recent threads. My other thread (as noted in it's title, and as stated in the initial post) was put up as a place for people to find links to sites where they can gather updated information on the situation in Japan. I have not deleted that thread as it is still relevant and is in my signature so people can still link to it from there if they are still seeking information sources.

    I'm sorry if you do not feel this is releveant to the current status of SE and (by proxy the state of FFXI). But many in this community do, and expressed their appreciation for it. Therefore I have been trying to keep at least one thread alive where they can continue to come to get updates without having to wade through tons of reports on other situations like Libya when they JUST want information on Japan. Many of the news media have been providing delayed information and much of that has been exagerrated. I have been putting forth a conserted effort to gather information from multiple sites and trying to limit the relaying of information that has been reported from sources closest to the situation and appears most credible. A good example is the 19,000 missing and dead estimate you questioned--that figure came directly from the Police Agency, not from news reporters tallied figures--from the Police agency that has been tracking reports from the teams actually surveying the areas.

    If you are not interested in this information, you do not need to read the thread. If you have nothing informative about the situation to contribute, please, out of respect to those who are subscribing to this thread specifically for informative posts, refrain from posting it in THIS thread--feel free to post it in others, just not this one.

    This will be my one and only attempt to moderate the traffic in this thread. If the trolling gets out of hand, I will delete the thread.

    Thank you everyone for your concern for Japan and it's people, and all your contributions to getting information out thus far, and I look forward to news of better things to come.

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    Ilax I wasn't avoiding your main concern, I made a simple response to your first posting which was "what does this have to to do with FFXI", and honestly why does it matter that there are multiple post for information. As some of the those threads are pushed back you would have to actively go looking for them, and some may not want to waste time digging for the information (we've been doing it since the incident happened) as you have done I see up in a previous post. I think it is nice that someone is trying to keep information to the front of the forums; and info directly from the source seeing as our media here isn't keep us updated. The little they do release is blown out of proportion with words like "the worst incident Chernobyl" instead of giving us facts. In no where in my post did I use the words that you where wrong in having your opinion. I did say that they where negative and counter productive to those of us concerned. In the end of it all we are not hurting you on a personal level for wanting know whats going on, so how is complaining about multiply treads productive? It only service to upset you unnecessarily and those of the community. thanks
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    I keep having to go back and search threads I cant find any more for information. It would be lovely to have it in one place.
    Here are a few questions I have.
    Is or is not SE affected directly by rolling blackouts? By directly I mean is their power shut off by them.
    Are SE servers in one place or in several places? Do they all have to be up for the game to be up? What I am getting at is if servers for interdepartment memos etc are not up can the game go up?
    As a side question I am wondering how many servers SE actually has in Japan. This has to do with a bit outdated topic of moving or duplicating servers. This subject has come up on other forums than this one so I would like to know more about them. Information on the web seems to be more about company goals etc not actual physical property other than buildings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by annewandering View Post
    I keep having to go back and search threads I cant find any more for information. It would be lovely to have it in one place.
    Here are a few questions I have.
    Is or is not SE affected directly by rolling blackouts? By directly I mean is their power shut off by them.
    Are SE servers in one place or in several places? Do they all have to be up for the game to be up? What I am getting at is if servers for interdepartment memos etc are not up can the game go up?
    As a side question I am wondering how many servers SE actually has in Japan. This has to do with a bit outdated topic of moving or duplicating servers. This subject has come up on other forums than this one so I would like to know more about them. Information on the web seems to be more about company goals etc not actual physical property other than buildings.
    1. yes their affected.
    2. yes, the servers are in one place, no other locations hold your toon.
    3. yes, the servers and internet infrastructure needs to be operational to play.
    4. this site, and the FFXI, XIV, SE sites are at other locations, and not affected. Hance, we're all here.

    From what i understand, each zone has a physical server or the like. you do the math.
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    Good thread I keep checking back often for more updates (I do not use twitter or facebook).

    Just a quick note:

    Please do not let this thread stay of topic. It would be nice to have an actual thread to get updates from & not people arguing. This is not directed at anyone.

    Thank you all again for your updates :-)
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    I tried to pull up the blackout plan the other day and was having trouble finding the PDF's again. Someone posted that their ward is not receiving blackouts, which makes sense if you were to pull up a map of the area around their building. It is a highly commercialized area, and there is both a Hospital and Police station within a coupl blocks of their building. There are several more hospitals close by as well--3 within just a few miles of their building, as well as about 5 or 6 university campuses. A big Metropolitan Goverment Office building is within about 5 blocks or so as well, and I heard it is a big corridor for their mass transit system nearby as well.

    In short, that section of the grid is under heavy strain normally, and SE is in a 23 story building that houses 4 divisions of their entire operation (including the Taito Corporation division). So it kind of stands to reason that they would want to do their part to conserve power. Also, as mentioned in the Producer's Letter in the FFXIV forum (may have been on Lodestone, not sure), they have a large number of international employees. A lot of employees left the area due to concerns expressed by their respective counselates as well as friends/family, so they also quickly found themselves short staffed.

    The exact particulars of their server infrastructure is unkown, but the general concept is at least 1 server per world (24, +1 test server), in addition to 4 DNS servers, a 2 server storage rack housing their internal message services as well as at least one data storage rack to house their data, and additional servers for the POL service, Lobby servers, and the data storage units for the FFXI characters themselves. It is safe to assume it could be 30, as many as 40 servers in addition to several racks of disk arrays for data storage.

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