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  1. #21
    Player Trisscar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyheen View Post
    some of them can be solo or duo 99.
    True, but they're significantly harder to solo than the dream lands or the out lands.

    Quote Originally Posted by nyheen
    it not like you need 18 man power on it anymore
    I don't recall claiming such a thing.
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  2. #22
    Player Zhronne's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazusu View Post
    You mean there's more to this game than 2 hours of Dynamis, 30 minutes of Nyzul Isle (per day) and 3-4 hours of Legion (per week) - that's actually relevant?
    There's Salvage 2, there's Meeble Burrows, lots of people still need stuff from Voidwatch, there's normal assault to be doing as well because eventually you're gonna run out of AP to get Remnants Permit, and even old Salvo to complete the pieces you still don't own and need to get the +1 ones.

    To this add stuff like skilling up, then looking in bazaars to buy items and currency, shouting to get someone to trade currency 1:1 with you and stuff like that.
    Oh right, even lollimbus, which overall is probably not worth it but I guess there are at least a couple of interesting price.

    Then maybe add the fact you want to farm a new empy, or the endless hours wasted to help friends doing stuff.


    Last but not least, more often than not this game has the WASTED TIME in between all the things I mentioned. Because usually it's not like you log, snap your fingers and magically start doing what you have to do.
    You need to wait for friends to log, to unafk, you have to wait for the right shouts or shout yourself, you need to wait for people to gather, for mobs to be in the right time for procs, for the dyna-zone to be empty enough.

    You have the long frustrating wait when you want to move items from your satchel to your inventory, or when you have to go waste time to the porter moogle to get the items for the gear you're about to gear up, only to arrive in front of the event you want to do and remember you forgot that one item into your storage, so then you need to warp back and start the process again.

    Really, the amount of wasted time in this game is insane, don't make it look like a 2hr events really take only 120 minutes and 0 seconds because most of the times it's absolutely not like that.



    (I forgot exping new jobs, swapping merits and farming cruor!!)
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhronne View Post
    ...
    Again, just because you're still farming content that's 7 years old - doesn't mean the rest of us are. There's absolutely no need to reduce the duration of revamped content (what little of it there is) simply because you want to do more content that stopped being relevant years ago.

    Listing "Skilling up" and "Shouting for currency" as a common activity is absurd too.
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  4. #24
    Player Zhronne's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazusu View Post
    Again, just because you're still farming content that's 7 years old
    What's the 7 years old content that's in my list? I can't find it.

    doesn't mean the rest of us are.
    Define "the rest of us"
    I have quite a few of skilled and successful friends who are currently engaged only in Salvo2 and Dynamis (for moar and moar and moar relics, can't get enough!) because they're done with everything else, but they're part of a small minority, not the majority.
    I'm kinda in-between myself.


    There's absolutely no need to reduce the duration of revamped content
    If you're saying this in general, I don't know how to answer, I would say "it depends on the content".
    If we're talking about dynamis, as per topic, I'm not asking for a reduced Dynamis duration, it would just be absurd.
    I just said that while it would not make sense to reduce dynamis duration, I wish that it could be possible, because I sure would enjoy having one more hour of free time every day, since there is still a lot of stuff I need to do, and I never seem to have enough time to do everything.


    Listing "Skilling up" and "Shouting for currency" as a common activity is absurd too.
    My list of silly things was just a way to say that judging the amount of time an event requires from you by the max amount of time that event can last is not realistic, because in this game, more often than not, there is a fuckton of wasted time in-between those events and their respective max duration times.
    Some particularly organized people with particularly organized friends will see this only to a certain extent while other people will be crushed under its frustration, but its undeniable we all experience it, and sometimes it's more the time you waste in these things than the time you use inside the real event.


    So yeah, saying it requires you 18 mins for 6 Qilin runs just because each kill takes 3 minutes is not realistic, because you're gonna be using way more than that with all the time it takes to start a group, swap gear, sort jobs, getting everybody to gather, emptying boxes, etc etc.
    (just another silly example, of course)
    The same applyes for Dynamis and its 2hrs, altough to a lesser extent I guess, since most people tipically solo it and so don't have to rely on other players.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhronne View Post
    I'm not asking for a reduced Dynamis duration, it would just be absurd.
    I just said that while it would not make sense to reduce dynamis duration, I wish that it could be possible, because I sure would enjoy having one more hour of free time every day, since there is still a lot of stuff I need to do, and I never seem to have enough time to do everything.
    This is already possible:
    1. Enter Dynamis
    2. Stay in Dynamis for 1 hour.
    3. Leave Dynamis.
    4. ???
    5. Profit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    If you can't out-claim someone who's AFK, you need to find a new game to play.

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    Player Zhronne's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llana_Virren View Post
    This is already possible:
    1. Enter Dynamis
    2. Stay in Dynamis for 1 hour.
    3. Leave Dynamis.
    4. ???
    5. Profit!
    Oh yes of course! I've done it from time to time.
    But the idea of the op was different. Getting in 1hr the same amount of currency you get in 2!
    Man! I'd love that!

    Of course, once again, I'm well aware it would just make no sense for two thousand and one reasons. But I'd love to get the same results in half the time. That would mean more free time to do other stuff hey!
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  7. #27
    Player Waldrich's Avatar
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    Dynamis from 2hrs to 1hr and Umbral Marrow from 12,5mil to 25mil! gratz!
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    Forgive my brazilian english, if that matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yrusama View Post
    You make good points, but I'm suddenly reminded that XI was impossible to solo back in the day. They may be making small steps toward soloability, but at least they're doing it at all.

    Personally I think BST should get a massive nerf to bring them back to Vana'Diel. They solo too easily, and I hope any future bosses get a Seymour-esque instant-kill-pet move (I say this as a PUP as well, but don't tell my automaton). I can't enter an area without seeing a BST somewhere in it (excluding Pso'Xja and the like).
    BST is fine as it is, it's a solo job, that's it purpose. It doesn't get invited to anything because it doesn't bring anything to the table that another job couldn't cover. There's no reason to nerf it.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waldrich View Post
    Dynamis from 2hrs to 1hr and Umbral Marrow from 12,5mil to 25mil! gratz!
    Actually wouldn't change cus ADL would drop up to 2~4 Umbral Marrows instead of 1~2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venat View Post
    Actually wouldn't change cus ADL would drop up to 2~4 Umbral Marrows instead of 1~2
    Or you lose and get nothing instead of getting a second chance.
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