Mythic Adjustments - The Balancing Act! Part Deux

[Byrth]

Yeah, I just went to the test server with G-horn 99, AF3 neck, AF3+2 body, and Carn. That's +5 Minuet and +70% duration for +120% duration total. We'd expect a 4:24 duration Minuet V (120*2.2), which is what I observed. I repeated the test with Troubadour and it was 8:48 duration Minuet V (120*2.2*2). If there's a cap on song duration, we haven't hit it yet.

Another 30% duration (Marduk's Shalwar +1 and the 20% I'm proposing on Carn) would extend the Troubadour'd duration to 10:00, so you could perfectly keep up a Marcato'd song and sing about every 10 minutes. A further 20% duration past that would be useful for players with Daurdable, because it would let you keep 4 songs up without them ever dropping, but that can be on gear in the future.



I do not speak Japanese, so these are guesses:

First post - Something about Ninja and the effect I tied to Mijin Gakure, I think. I think he wants strong Paralyze instead of Blind on Blade: Kamu.

Second post - Generally congratulatory. Google translate makes it sound like they are surprised a foreigner came up with something reasonable. Says they'd kill themselves for Yagrush as it is described.

Third post - Something about afterglow, perhaps that these enhancements should be tied to afterglow?


Thanks for translating the post, Kincard. I find reading these responses endlessly amusing.

[detlef]

It could be that they plan to add more song duration gear in the future. If they do, I hope they utilize the earring, ring, back, and waist slots.

[Sargent]

Good suggestions Byrth, however...

Nirvana - People like this weapon, but they mostly like it because there are no alternatives for Summoner. I want to avoid putting anything on this that is a buff the entire summoner job should receive, so I will go with:
* Change Magic Attack Bonus +40 to "Pet: Affinity +6". Now it serves the same purpose but is more effective.
Beyond that, Summoner would have to change as a job before I feel I could enhance a role it plays with this weapon in a way that makes sense.

I'd increase this to 'Avatar: "Blood Pact" damage +20~30%' for the level 99 version, or if that's too powerful, simply add 'Avatar: Enhances attack'. Where the aftermath on Nirvana is extremely nice, there are very little endgame situations where it is viable to gain the TP to maintain it (especially after the Embrava nerf).
Another idea would be to add '"Blood Pact" ability delay -15' to it, which bypasses the Blood Pact delay cap (allowing for a 30 second recast on Blood Pacts).

[Areayea]

Good suggestions Byrth, however...

I'd increase this to 'Avatar: "Blood Pact" damage +20~30%' for the level 99 version, or if that's too powerful, simply add 'Avatar: Enhances attack'. Where the aftermath on Nirvana is extremely nice, there are very little endgame situations where it is viable to gain the TP to maintain it (especially after the Embrava nerf).
Another idea would be to add '"Blood Pact" ability delay -15' to it, which bypasses the Blood Pact delay cap (allowing for a 30 second recast on Blood Pacts).

that sounds effin awesome >.>

[Byrth]

I'd increase this to 'Avatar: "Blood Pact" damage +20~30%' for the level 99 version, or if that's too powerful, simply add 'Avatar: Enhances attack'. Where the aftermath on Nirvana is extremely nice, there are very little endgame situations where it is viable to gain the TP to maintain it (especially after the Embrava nerf).

I think this would be really cool and is nice because it would make the staff good for both Magic and Physical BPs. However, "Increases Avatar BP damage" is becoming more and more common these days, and SE is going to have to make it even more common if they want to give SMN a use without totally redesigning it. In that case the value of Nirvana would drop relatively. This could definitely be an option, though. I'll add it to the OP.

Also, Nirvana's aftermath isn't actually very good for Avatars as far as I can tell. AM3 isn't, anyway. Predator Claws has an fTP of about 8 and extra hits are +1 fTP, so AM3 averages out to an 8% increase in Predator Claws damage on average. A high AM2 might be better depending what you're fighting, but being better than an 8% increase still doesn't make it worth the crap SMN has to go through to activate aftermath.

Another idea would be to add '"Blood Pact" ability delay -15' to it, which bypasses the Blood Pact delay cap (allowing for a 30 second recast on Blood Pacts).

I'd like to see this change made to the entire job, which is why I didn't want to tie it to the Mythic.

[Gaspee]

Really great ideas here. Well done, Byrth.