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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by bungiefanNA View Post
    Many Canadian ISPs limit monthly bandwidth usage to 2 GB per month, with overage fees.
    A brief comparison of Canadian internet service providers shows 15GB/month to be the absolute lowest of any providers, some even offering unlimited data plans (in their lowest tiers). I don't know where you got that number from. Maybe mobile connections, as those are usually lower.

    Quote Originally Posted by bungiefanNA View Post
    Monthly usage limits are also standard in Europe.
    Personally I know of no European country where that is the case. The UK has several unlimited plans, and others are in a high range. In Scandinavian countries, Germany and some surrounding countries almost no provider imposes a usage limit (I'm not aware of any such plans in Germany, and haven't been any for the last decade or so). What countries in Europe follow that standard?

    Quote Originally Posted by bungiefanNA View Post
    Discs avoid the biggest part of the download of a fresh install, the 10+ GB of data to download. Patching is usually just about 1 GB.
    Not true. Most of the complete install from the original discs needs to be redownloaded with a current install of the game. This would be somewhat remedied with a newer installation on CDs, at least for about a year or so.
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    Personally I'd much rather they adjusted their online downloads to be up to date. Steam handles game updates very well, it does it for almost every other game out there. They should really look into making a current version of the game available, and possibly even releasing version updates through it. It would be a lot easier and faster than what we currently have.

    Also, they should never release anything on a physical disc ever again, updated or not. In fact, I'd prefer the not up-to-date version, if only to discourage people from buying it.
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    I'd buy a new Collection on disc just to have an updated install. I just wish you could install the game as a Digital Download from POL itself. (By installing POL and Updating it, once you click on the "PLAY" button for FFXI it Should begin installing the current client automatically, but that's just me)
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    Windows® PC (Digital Download), Only?
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    I just want to chime in and say that I hope that whoever made the Seekers of Adoulin site automatically make noise is suffering the most difficult bowel movement of his or her life right now.
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    i buy almost all PC games digitally now. Other than the collectability of a physical object, I don't see much value to physical distribution on a personal level. You could never really resell PC games anyway, much less this game. A disc copy is only of value to me when its resellable.
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    Except I'm NOT comparing the pros and cons of digital download v.s getting disks, I'm saying it'd be nice if both options exist for 2 different groups, while you're like "Disks are bad, they shouldn't exist,
    It costs more to make disks and boxes. If most people will get a digital download, making a boxed copy wont be worth the investment, It's not a matter of good/bad, it's a matter of 'not worth the expense.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    It costs more to make disks and boxes. If most people will get a digital download, making a boxed copy wont be worth the investment, It's not a matter of good/bad, it's a matter of 'not worth the expense.'
    Do you sell games? Do you have marketing analyze regarding selling games? A lot of times selling a product is more than just "Nobody is going to buy disks, they're just going to download it, thus is not worth the investment", because there's more to that when it comes to selling a product and not as simple as it seems.

    I'd say it depend on how they want to release it. A few days ago I saw stores selling Command and Conquer collection, the box says there are no disks just digital download, but the physical copy of the game still in store! If everyone's going to download the game, why bother to sell them in store? But the fact is, because I saw it in store, so I was semi-interested in the product. Otherwise I will never bother.

    A few days ago I also saw Rift expansion in store, so why put it in store when we can just download it? But when I see rift in store, I was like "Oh, Rift new expansion is out, I gonna check it out on internet when I go home", I don't follow gaming news, if I don't see Rift expansion pack in store I will never know it's expansion is out. Same for Guildwars 2, when it's out for a few days, it was out of stock in every store near my house, so I was like "Omg is GW2 that good? Maybe I need to check it out!"

    Safe to say if those games are not in store, I will never notice them, let alone go to Steam and download them. If I see them in store, maybe I will pay attention, and maybe go try it out, that's the additional marketing value it generates.

    There are many ways to release SoA, that can get more ppl to know that FFXI just released new expansion, come back and try it out, not just put them on steam for sale silently. Selling on Steam is one way, but there are many more. There are also players from different region that doesn't use Steam, nor even heard of it nor bother to study about them, there's no need to go "Steam or gtfo"(Yes, players from Singapore, Dubai, Saudi Arabia, Taiwan, Korea, any many other countries also plays this game, and many of them don't know wtf Steam is and don't use Paypal)
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    Hmmm. This thread seems really familiar. All you have to do is replace 'boxed set' with 'PS2' and 'digital download' with 'get a PC noob!'
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    Quote Originally Posted by cap02914 View Post
    Hi all,
    I purchased a digital copy of FFXI about a year ago possibly longer. It's no longer on my PC because of a reformat. I am trying to reinstall it on this laptop. All searches and FAQ I've seen have redirected me to purchasing a copy as if I'm a new player.

    What do I do? Where do I go?

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    Okay, seeing posts like these in the technical support thread is the reason I want a disk. Most online stores have a limited time frame in which you can download and redownload your digital product. I don't want to lose my copy of the game just because of some deadline to download it.
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