PS2: Seekers of Adoulin

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Getting a rating from the ESRB, CERO, PEGI, or whichever rating system, costs money. They need to recoup that cost from the game sales (well maybe not with the subscription fee for this game, but they still ideally want to). Each platform it is released on has to be rated seperately, with a seperate fee.

If indie developers can scrape together enough money to pay this fee for their $2 DSiWare download, I'm pretty sure multinational Square-Enix can pay that fee for their $30 expansion pack.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

SE is not releasing a PS2 version because in the US because of 2 reasons. 1) The hardware is not officially available for sale at the moment.

http://us.playstation.com/ps2/systems/ps2black.html

I'm not sure about this second part, but if your register the code for the expansion, does it download the content to the ps2 anyways?

No. Just as with prior expansions, you are expected to buy a separate disc for each platform you play on, hence PS2/3 player rage.

[Sarick]

http://us.playstation.com/ps2/systems/ps2black.html



No. Just as with prior expansions, you are expected to buy a separate disc for each platform you play on, hence PS2/3 player rage.

Although I agree that PS2 should be moved to PS3 or at least remastered for it, your PS2 link shows a version that is INCOMPATIBLE with FFXI. That PS2 lacks a HDD and can't be upgraded to support one. So technically PS2 support isn't happening. The PS2 software for FFXI crashes all the time anyway. I have my assumptions that this is on purpose but there is no proof.

As for it being supported in one region and not the others is wrong. Even on a busyness level it should continue to be done in all regions or NONE at all! Everyone who bought the original hardware should be considered.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Although I agree that PS2 should be moved to PS3 or at least remastered for it, your PS2 link shows a version that is INCOMPATIBLE with FFXI.

The instruction manuals for Treasures of Aht Urhgan, Wings of the Goddess and Vana'diel Collection 2008 all show the PS2 Slim. They were released (on PS2) after the Slim was.

A lack of compatible models did not stop S-E from publishing stand-alone expansion packs for existing PS2 customers in the past.

[SNK]

http://us.playstation.com/ps2/systems/ps2black.html

As much as I agree with a lot of what you're saying and please don't take any offense to this but she's right in the aspect that Sony hasn't produced any older "Fat" PS2s which allow you to install the Hard drive into the system which is the main reason people were able to play FFXI on the PS2 to begin with. The slims sadly can't do this.

You have to understand, FFXI is a big fucking game in the sense that it needs a hardrive to store the huge amount of fucking data the PS2 needs to access. If you even attempt to make FFXI run off the disc only, you're going to choke the shit out of the system.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Sony hasn't produced any older "Fat" PS2s which allow you to install the Hard drive into the system which is the main reason people were able to play FFXI on the PS2 to begin with.

That's an argument for a lack of a "Vana'diel/Ultimate Collection." Expansion discs by definition are only used by preexisting players.

The PS2 Slim generally became available in 2004, about a week or so before the release of Chains of Promathia. Treasures of Aht Urhgan and Wings of the Goddess were released in 2006 and 2007 respectively. As I noted in the post just above yours, the instruction manuals for those two expansions even use images of the Slim in their respective "Getting Started" chapters.

If this was about "can't get new customers," PS2 discs would have stopped at Chains of Promathia. But while not even Japan is getting a PlayStation 2 version of Ultimate Collection Seekers Edition, they're still getting Seekers of Adoulin on its own disc. I'm not.

You have to understand, FFXI is a big fucking game in the sense that it needs a hardrive to store the huge amount of fucking data the PS2 needs to access.

I know, I have one. But I will not be able to access Seekers of Adoulin content on it for lack of a pressed NA installation disc.

[SNK]

I know, I have one. But I will not be able to access Seekers of Adoulin content on it for lack of a pressed NA installation disc.

You know there are ways around this right? You could easily get the JP disc and have the software be installed on your U.S. System. The code is excatly the same so with a bootloader you could probably just install it anyways.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

You know there are ways around this right?

Hardware/software/network-level regional lock-outs, lack of knowledge of kanji, etc.

[Alhanelem]

Hardware/software/network-level regional lock-outs, lack of knowledge of kanji, etc.

you don't need to know kanji... the data itself isn't language specific- all four languages are contained within the dats.

[wildsprite]

It's about time. I was running this game on a 2004-era Gateway PC. It's 2013. I've upgraded twice with stock-from-store PC's that were inexpensive.

My girlfriend runs it on a modern laptop without trouble. Think about it- FFXI was originally for a Windows XP chassis, and we've gone through Vista,Win 7, and now Win 8 OS. That's a lot of upgraded capacity. Anyone who can't run this on their PC now has a really, REALLY, REALLY horrid piece of obsolete junk on their desk.

actually, FFXI ran on windows 98SE, think about that part for a bit, it did run it, it didn't run it well but it did run it
then when XP came out they migrated and toward the end of the life of 98 they changed the minimum to XP