On Red Mage melee...

[saevel]

Ok played with things a bit and using ACP DW body + Eru's feet I can get 90 Almace + Eph to be 0.00839% better then 90 Almace + STR Shikagar.

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I stand corrected, VS anything T or higher the Eph off hand starts to lose to the Shikagar. LCF's effect sucks.

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Don't want to create a bunch of self reply's.

With 0 ODD (can't find a number to put in there) Req Spam beats out Almace CDC by a very narrow margin on harder things (high defense NM's over your level). Vs weaker things it easily beats it. On much harder things it lose's to CDC. Really want a better ODD number to plug in because that could sway the numbers on the NM with high defense.

Otherwise, the Req gear is ridiculously easy to get. Any decent RDM will have most of this already, its your MND enfeebling gear.

Well Seriha finally got what they wanted. A "hybrid" WS that RDM can naively use.

[Neisan_Quetz]

What do you mean better ODD number? unless you can't keep up AM1, ODD is applied to main hand only on sheet. Set it to whatever level AM you have, unless you can't keep any AM up at all.

[saevel]

Moten's sheets do not have AM1/2/3 as a list.

Melee Multiplier 1 1
ODD Rate (main hand) 0% 0%

What is the proc rate of the ODD on Emp weapons? The sheet is wanting that number to calculate out the average melee damage.

[Neisan_Quetz]

30%/40%/50% AM 1/2/3.

EDIT: Mandau is 13% Triple damage, Excalibur is close to 15% iirc.

[Aana]

Req is actually 'fixed', since I informed Mot about the issue with replicating ftp. Excal actually beats Almace on weaker mobs. Falls behind on stronger stuff due to attack penalty.

Although I doubt you'll even read this.

Wait...so req used to have replicating FTP and now it was 'fixed' to not replicate, or the other way around? I hadnt heard anything about this being changed so which way is it now?

[Neisan_Quetz]

Other way around, We didn't know Requi had replicating ftp at first. This is in regards to Mot's DPS sheets. It also means elebelt/elegorget are best in slot for the WS above any other options.

[Aana]

Wow i missed that memo. Ive been living it up dual boxing with my Thf/dnc and rdm/dnc mule Req<=>Rudra darkness. Makes me sad ive been missing out on a 20% boost to WS damage via gorget/belt all these months

If my crappy mule can do half the damage of my super pimped thf, im curious what someone that gives a crap can do :P

/goes to change macros and make an ele gorget >_<

[Crimson_Slasher]

My requie/deathblossom builds arent maximal but outside abyssea ive spiked 1800s a few times on the goblins in dangruf (EP) and the skeletons (1700 atleast a few times) in Labrynth of onzozo (the ones that drop seasoning stones). Using elebelts, but so far, mnd hasnt seemed to impress me too much yet. Im still finding my str/attack to win, but im still lacking some of the best mnd gear (in slot) at the moment. Due to inventory woes ive been packing hybrid int/mnd pieces into slots (Praeco doublet for example) so yes.

[Duelle]

Ok, so assuming we're putting together Requiescat sets, do we focus on balance between +Attack and MND, focus more on MND or focus more on Attack?

Well Seriha finally got what they wanted. A "hybrid" WS that RDM can naively use.

lv97 and requiring 100 merits dumped into it to make worthwhile is not what I'd exactly call native. Not to mention there are those other 96 levels to account for. Well, 66 really because you can probably get away with having just Fast Blade going into lv30~.

[saevel]

Ok, so assuming we're putting together Requiescat sets, do we focus on balance between +Attack and MND, focus more on MND or focus more on Attack?
lv97 and requiring 100 merits dumped into it to make worthwhile is not what I'd exactly call native. Not to mention there are those other 96 levels to account for. Well, 66 really because you can probably get away with having just Fast Blade going into lv30~.

Ohh I agree it's not perfect, but then again our last "Native" WS was level 75 and required a R/EX weapon from Nyzule, a 100 floor disc, or a retarded amount of time (14,000 Ws points I believe).

Merit Points seem much easier to do, especially in this day of Abyssea and 15K XP from Voidwatch. Seriously I did Req almost exclusively from Voidwatch XP.

Gear wise, crap MND into every slot you can. Ele gorget / Belt and Atheling mantle are the exceptions. If we had a MND+15 back then I'd use it, but 20 Atk 3 DA will beat 6 MND. It's basically your "max potency" MND enfeebling set. Praeco (or Cure +10% body) is a perfect piece for body, its +15 MND, only thing better is the R/EX Akvan drop at +17, but he can kiss my a$$ (0/ridiculous so far). Our Emp gear and Relic +2 provide a ton of MND in various slots. Aquasoul rings for +7 on each finger. Ruarc crown is kinda rare on the AH cause nobody does that VWNM now. So I'll be using Emp +2 Head for 8MND. Duelists +2 is +7 on the hands and used for your Enhancing set anyway. Legs would be rubious but if you don't have those then some +7 pair off the AH. Self buff with Gain-STR not Gain-MND, the MND will do more for your WS but the STR will do more for your melee, most of our damage is from melee not WS. Gain-DEX + CDC was the exception because it also enhanced our crit rate to some degree. That being said, if your primary role is landing a maxed our paralyze / slow on something, then the difference between Gain-MND and Gain-STR isn't very big.

The gorget / belt turn it into a 7.2 fTP WS (5+1 + fTP bonus). The -20% attack hurts .. lots, yet the +fTP and our easy access to ridiculous amounts of MND makes up for it and then some.