On Red Mage melee...

[Karbuncle]

Nor was RDM a master of magic. Hence the sword&magic hybrid.

They are that in FFXI. But more powerful in magic than melee. Your(well maybe not yours, but someone) answer is possibly nerfing Magic to make their melee more appealing (I vaguely recall "Make it to RDM can only buff themselves")

RDM is good with a sword, however you're prowess ends when the mob reaches HNM status, Which is where your magic is suppose to take over. You have your Melee for weaker mobs, and your magic for tough mobs. any RDM should know this, and it makes perfect sense, They aren't called "Red Melee", they're called "Red Mage".

If you want to go into specifics, RDM was a generalist, and as such mediocre at everything. That didn't fly and will never fly in the MMO context because generalists tend to suffer horrible fates in being excluded from meaningful content or relegated to a function that was both menial and ridiculously far away from what the players wanted out of the class when they rolled it. Since the generalist approach doesn't translate well into MMOs, pieces of the hybrid have to be adjusted to make it work.

THey did this, By giving RDM its unique niche, Enhancing and Enfeebling better than other jobs. What needs to be done is to power up its enhancing and Enfeebling Capabilities. Swords don't need to be left in the dust (RDM still has access to a lot of Melee gear and Almace/Excalibur), But at the same time i redirect you to my above statement, as a Hybrid job they are adept at melee, and Excellent at Magic. Knowing which situation calls for which is the Hallmark of a good RDM.

You're free to ask for Melee capabilities, just so long as they don't nerf Magic capabilities, Because you wouldn't be helping RDM, you'd be condemning it and everyone who plays it as a mage.

We're not the ones instigating the bickering. If you want to help get this thread back on course, join us in asking the trolls to leave our thread alone and bother someone else. We could then get back to discussing ideas.

Frankly, You're arguing and instigating back, and in some cases, with a far harsher and irritated tone. We're adults "THEY STARTED IT" isn't working. You're just as guilty for continuing it.

Also, what Seriha said, a thousand times over.

Kay. Again i say though, Maybe seri mentioned it in this post, but I haven't seen a single good suggestion come out of this thread in dozens of pages.

What would make RDM melee good? What boosts would be worthwhile?