On Red Mage melee...

[Aurara]

You dont have to melee for those spells to be useful you know.

[Rayik]

You dont have to melee for those spells to be useful you know.

And I don't have to stand in the back line motionless, either. Well, okay, depends on the mob.

[Thunderlips]

And I don't have to stand in the back line motionless, either. Well, okay, depends on the mob.

One question I have been thinking of is how much damage are you going to be adding when swapping weapons to cast spells (staves/clubs+sheilds/PDT/MDT options) or are you going to forego bonuses from those slots to keep your TP from resetting?

[Rayik]

One question I have been thinking of is how much damage are you going to be adding when swapping weapons to cast spells (staves/clubs+sheilds/PDT/MDT options) or are you going to forego bonuses from those slots to keep your TP from resetting?

If I'm meleeing, I'm not swapping staves. I personally have pairs of MAB and M.Acc Shamshirs, just in case my spells need a boost. Really, if I'm meleeing it, chances are my capped and merited enfeebling skill is landing my spells just fine. If I'm having trouble landing spells, then I'll change up gear as needed. If I'm still not landing them, it's either highly resistant or flat-out immune. Don't really need M.Acc to land Cures and buffs, MND and enhancing gear swaps take care of that.

[Supersun]

One question I have been thinking of is how much damage are you going to be adding when swapping weapons to cast spells (staves/clubs+sheilds/PDT/MDT options) or are you going to forego bonuses from those slots to keep your TP from resetting?

Because we need more macc?

Seriously, if we can land it, we're going to land it with or without a staff.
From there the extra mind froma weapon slot is going to add like what? .3% more slow?

(Slow is really only so useful up until the point that your DDs can recast Utsu between swings.)

[Rearden]

Because we need more macc?

Seriously, if we can land it, we're going to land it with or without a staff.
From there the extra mind froma weapon slot is going to add like what? .3% more slow?

(Slow is really only so useful up until the point that your DDs can recast Utsu between swings.)

Someone's never fought a monster outside of Abyssea

[Supersun]

Someone's never fought a monster outside of Abyssea

Someone's missing the fact that it's pretty easy to cap our enfeebles with or without a wand.

I mean when I first saw the Esto neck piece I just facepalmed because I realized that in 99% of situations it would be virtually worthless due to how easy it was to cap spells. Monsters really don't have high enough mnd in general to pose a problem.

GG is right about one weapon and that's the Cure Staff. That's a weapon that's slightly hard to get around. At the same time though we aren't asking to melee on every monster in the game. If there's something that is mean enough that it would warrant stepping back and using a cure staff that's not a problem.

We aren't and have never been asking to melee on HNMs. If somethings dicky enough that a blue mage has to step back and cannonball spam like the ACP crystal that's fine. At the same time it would be SLIGHTLY nice to have the bar for acceptable meleeing raised slightly higher then just exp.

There are plenty of non HNM level mobs that would be nice to have some level of acceptable melee. A common motto has been "Melee fodder, Magic bosses" Fodder doesn't apply to just exp, there are plenty of NMs that most people would dump into the fodder category. It would be nice to receive some level of buff at least to accommodate those.

Hyrist also mentioned that someone told him to not even bother with that parse until he has an Evi set for 75.