On Red Mage melee...

[ManaKing]

No job is difficult to play.

Agreed, I'm saying that RDM die less easily to 1 shots than other jobs.

[Aurara]

Agreed, I'm saying that RDM die less easily to 1 shots than other jobs.

I know this, I have solo'd/tanked multiple things on rdm, and have friends who have tanked the same if not more stuff than myself. What you don't get is, the buffs you guys are asking for are absolutely ridiculous, and overpowered.

[ManaKing]

I know this, I have solo'd/tanked multiple things on rdm, and have friends who have tanked the same if not more stuff than myself. What you don't get is, the buffs you guys are asking for are absolutely ridiculous, and overpowered.

By comparison to RDM almost every job in the game is OP and Ridiculous, especially at end game and especially with their AF3+2.

We are brainstorming how to get our job, the one that was fine to melee from lvls 1-50, back to doing what we like doing. Which is melee/heal/nuke. I didn't say play a piss poor BLM/WHM that can't melee properly, because that is what we currently are.

The only thing that I am needed for is Phallanx 2 for FCs. Kinda like I was only good for Refresh a couple years back. When this game came out RDM was legit, it was fun, and I loved the shit out of it. Why make RDM great at the beginning and then pull the rug out from under us as soon as we get to the end game?

[Daniel_Hatcher]

By comparison to RDM almost every job in the game is OP and Ridiculous, especially at end game and especially with their AF3+2.

We are brainstorming how to get our job, the one that was fine to melee from lvls 1-50, back to doing what we like doing. Which is melee/heal/nuke. I didn't say play a piss poor BLM/WHM that can't melee properly, because that is what we currently are.

The only thing that I am needed for is Phallanx 2 for FCs. Kinda like I was only good for Refresh a couple years back. When this game came out RDM was legit, it was fun, and I loved the shit out of it. Why make RDM great at the beginning and then pull the rug out from under us as soon as we get to the end game?

SE got scared, RDM was getting too powerful at soloing which is kind of the opposite of a MMO, that said they can stop with the gimping, and even worse taking us off equipment that jobs like BLU can wear which at one time RDM could also.

That said, shouldn't be so rude to people even if they're only here to troll (Aurara not saying you are, just in general) SE will just ignore the thread even more, or close it.

[Aurara]

By comparison to RDM almost every job in the game is OP and Ridiculous, especially at end game and especially with their AF3+2.

OK, not part of argument, but ill give you that.

We are brainstorming how to get our job, the one that was fine to melee from lvls 1-50, back to doing what we like doing. Which is melee/heal/nuke. I didn't say play a piss poor BLM/WHM that can't melee properly, because that is what we currently are.

The only thing that I am needed for is Phallanx 2 for FCs. Kinda like I was only good for Refresh a couple years back. When this game came out RDM was legit, it was fun, and I loved the shit out of it. Why make RDM great at the beginning and then pull the rug out from under us as soon as we get to the end game?

But see, you didn't get my argument that i have stated countless times, that 99.99% of people who do rdm melee the way you want, will be really really bad, which you don't seem to get.

[Thunderlips]

By comparison to RDM almost every job in the game is OP and Ridiculous, especially at end game and especially with their AF3+2.

We are brainstorming how to get our job, the one that was fine to melee from lvls 1-50, back to doing what we like doing. Which is melee/heal/nuke. I didn't say play a piss poor BLM/WHM that can't melee properly, because that is what we currently are.

The only thing that I am needed for is Phallanx 2 for FCs. Kinda like I was only good for Refresh a couple years back. When this game came out RDM was legit, it was fun, and I loved the shit out of it. Why make RDM great at the beginning and then pull the rug out from under us as soon as we get to the end game?

1-50 you are talking a very small difference in the skill levels of jobs, after 50 is when the more skilled jobs (A and above) really begin to pull away from the pack while those jobs with a lower skill level start to fall behind more and more. It makes sens that a job who only has a B for its best melee skill falls behind on tougher mobs.

I have used my RDM to melee a lot of things that have been tough and though it takes me a long time to kill them, I rarely am in fear of dying to anything, even if i get a decent number of adds. I'm sure I am far from having the perfect RDM DD set but for the gear I have (which was easy enough to get) but unless something is VT+, it's not even a challenge to kill.

Personally I don't see RDM melee being broken, I guess its just the fact that too many in the past have tried to DD in terrible gear/no food on mobs that were too high of a level to do a decent amount of damage on.