Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
This is the important point that a lot of people are missing.



Seriha, Supersun, and Hyrist disagree with me and I'm not accusing them of trying to destroy Red Mage. Duelle is the one trying to nerf Red Mage's spell selection and casting abilities. That is pretty screwed up, and I dare say I'm confident enough to speak for many Red Mages when I say that we will not stand for it. I could care less about a melee buff, provided that it does not nerf our magical aspect or take away development time from our magical aspects. The latter is still a big deal. Hours spent figuring out the balance and implementation of a new Melee ability are hours spent doing absolutely nothing for the successful aspect of Red Mage.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he simply suggest a stance for melee? If you don't want to melee, don't use the stance, your spells would be just fine. Again, sorry if I misread his suggestion.


Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
This is pretty off base. We miss all of, what, Cure V, Regen 3, and T5 nukes / -Ga nukes? Red Mage has an astoundingly powerful spell selection, all things considered. Especially because we're not shackled down with the same horseshit that Scholar is. Stances that simply increase melee potency or increase magic potency? That's fine. I can just fulltime the magic one, win/win. Stances that affect spell selection and/or nerf casting abilities/ranges? No.
Yeah, we get some nice spells, and everyone else in the game gets nicer ones. And yes, since you have no interest in melee, just fulltime the magic one. Win/win.



Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
Chant du Cygne is the best Sword WS in the game. Use that. (inb4 getting WoE weapons is hard. Goes back to point #1, if Rdm melee sucks, get better gear and it won't suck. Every job is the same).
I'm working on getting this WS. I'm not putting my faith in SE to help our native WS, so it looks like if I'm going to really get anywhere with melee, I'm going to have to break down and get CDC. I still don't think we should have to finish an Empyrean weapon to get a decent WS, but that seems to be where we're at, so be it.