On Red Mage melee...

[Aurara]

But why would you invite a Rdm for refresh II when a Brd using Ballad 1 will provide as much MP as the Rdm using Refresh II would, and the brd still has one more song to use.

Why would you use inferior ballads? Also, Phalanx 2 is still nice for individual melee hits/TP moves that scherzo wont drop the dmg down on, seriously, you guys make rdm look so useless its incredible.

[Aurara]

Who subs nin in voidwatch on pld? How does phalanx do shit for TP moves? It takes off a set amount of both physical/magic damage, why is this a bad thing to bring to the table?

[Aurara]

So are you ever going to bring up valid arguments other than attacking my about things that arent even related to final fantasy xi. If that's the case, show us your gear sets for meleeing, show us the people you play with, show us how you play even, if you can't do that then you should probably stop arguing because I can ask the same thing of you, but if I did that you would make up some silly excuse as to why you couldn't.


6 man voidwatch vid on youtube: pld cor rdm whm smnx2. So sorry wut.

[Rayik]

So are you ever going to bring up valid arguments other than attacking my about things that arent even related to final fantasy xi. If that's the case, show us your gear sets for meleeing, show us the people you play with, show us how you play even, if you can't do that then you should probably stop arguing because I can ask the same thing of you, but if I did that you would make up some silly excuse as to why you couldn't.

Again, you spent more of your argument going off of baseless assumptions; repeatedly bringing up "stop playing with gimp players", as if you were somehow watching me play at all times(creepy), while I gave multiple examples of what I was talking about with in-game mechanics. Please, I am genuinely asking you, where did I bring up a silly excuse for anything? Because I refuse to parse lolmeleeRDM against a specialist DD?

6 man voidwatch vid on youtube: pld cor rdm whm smnx2. So sorry wut.

Was this supposed to be a link? This isn't even a sentence. Your posts hurt my brain.

[Aurara]

Again, you spent more of your argument going off of baseless assumptions; repeatedly bringing up "stop playing with gimp players", as if you were somehow watching me play at all times(creepy), while I gave multiple examples of what I was talking about with in-game mechanics. Please, I am genuinely asking you, where did I bring up a silly excuse for anything? Because I refuse to parse lolmeleeRDM against a specialist DD?

If you spent more time arguing about the actual topic instead of pointing out my grammar mistakes and making personal attacks instead of attacking/arguing with what I'm actually saying you would realize you look really foolish.

Was this supposed to be a link? This isn't even a sentence. Your posts hurt my brain.

See, here you go again, attacking my grammar without an actual counter-argument. If you think my posts make your brain hurt, how about YOUR posts making everyone else's brain hurt. Here is the video since you obviously can't search youtube properly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ReopFQsirQ

[Hyrist]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ReopFQsirQ

Is there a timeframe when that video actually gets interesting? RDM does almost nothing and I don't see how people are ok with that sort of role for the RDM.

... I mean... he Saboteur'ed Poison II...

I really do hope SE fills that tall order into making us right buff/debuff specialists for endgame.

[Rayik]

If you spent more time arguing about the actual topic instead of pointing out my grammar mistakes and making personal attacks instead of attacking/arguing with what I'm actually saying you would realize you look really foolish.




See, here you go again, attacking my grammar without an actual counter-argument. If you think my posts make your brain hurt, how about YOUR posts making everyone else's brain hurt. Here is the video since you obviously can't search youtube properly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ReopFQsirQ

I can search YouTube just fine. If you're going to mention a video as some kind of proof of something, you post a link. You're the one making the argument, so it's your responsibility to make your "video proof" as accessible as possible. It'd be like a lawyer saying he has evidence to prove his case, but it's in some library where the jury has to look it up themselves. Not doing much for your case.

I've been making plenty of statements on topic, you choose to ignore them.

Anyway, back on topic.

After seeing the parse links Gokku posted(thank you, by the way), it's looking like finishing an Almace is the only readily available way I'm going to make RDM melee really viable in the current state of the game. I started the sword a while back, but got distracted by other things(working on a Ukkonvasara atm), so it's going to have to wait.

RDM melee is more of a side hobby anyway, so I'm not really in a hurry, which is one reason I never really upgraded from MAB swords I made last year; not a lot of point if no one is going to let you melee in a party anyway.

[Supersun]

Plds already get Phalanx which means the benefit that a Rdms phalanx brings to the table is the difference between a Pld and a Rdms phalanx.

I'm 99% sure with my quick guesstimation that the the difference between a Rdms Phalanx and a Plds phalanx is going to be less then 5 damage.

You aren't going to invite a rdm for 5 less damage per hit compared to what a brd can do.

[Aurara]

So less is better? I had no idea that was the new thing to do.

[Supersun]

So less is better? I had no idea that was the new thing to do.

Economic cost bro

5 less damage is only better when compared to every other option and there's nothing better.