On Red Mage melee...

[Neisan_Quetz]

Not sure if serious...

[Aurara]

I stand there and watch for enfeebs on the melees so i can remove them asap, you get hit by said enfeebs and are unable to do anything because you're /nin and can't take them off yourself after you echo drop yourself. Seriously, rdm shouldn't be meleeing because you feed unnecessary amounts of TP, and usually neglect from your duties, which i can assure you is not meleeing the mob because you think you're helping.

[Rayik]

I stand there and watch for enfeebs on the melees so i can remove them asap, you get hit by said enfeebs and are unable to do anything because you're /nin and can't take them off yourself after you echo drop yourself. Seriously, rdm shouldn't be meleeing because you feed unnecessary amounts of TP, and usually neglect from your duties, which i can assure you is not meleeing the mob because you think you're helping.

You're assuming an awful lot with this one. Going as far as to decide my subjob for me, yikes. I agree on the TP feed thing, though. RDM melee is still not a great solution in this game by any means, it needs a tweak. But, that's all it needs; just a nudge from the Devs and we could be really viable. BLU does it, the potential is there, just barely out of RDM's reach.

But again, you stand there, when you could be doing something else to contribute and still watch for status. I personally keep a ton of chat filters on, so my log isn't all cluttered and I can see status changes easier.

[Aurara]

You're assuming an awful lot with this one. Going as far as to decide my subjob for me, yikes. I agree on the TP feed thing, though. RDM melee is still not a great solution in this game by any means, it needs a tweak. But, that's all it needs; just a nudge from the Devs and we could be really viable. BLU does it, the potential is there, just barely out of RDM's reach.

BLU? REALLY? BLU is set up that way, that's the way the spells were designed, if you want to play like BLU so bad, go play BLU

But again, you stand there, when you could be doing something else to contribute and still watch for status. I personally keep a ton of chat filters on, so my log isn't all cluttered and I can see status changes easier.

See, this is a very very foolish statement, because you imply i am not contributing by standing, and that in order to contribute i HAVE to melee, which is completely wrong.

[Rayik]

BLU? REALLY? BLU is set up that way, that's the way the spells were designed, if you want to play like BLU so bad, go play BLU



See, this is a very very foolish statement, because you imply i am not contributing by standing, and that in order to contribute i HAVE to melee, which is completely wrong.

I didn't say you had to melee, just not stand there with your thumb up your ass.

[Khajit]

If a blm is healing it means he was too goddamned stupid to nuke so that the mob would be dead already.

[Rayik]

If RDM was viable and great currently, there wouldn't be 10 threads in the area begging for an update. If RDM wasn't meant to have any melee potential whatsoever and be relegated to the backline, there wouldn't be 10 threads in this area begging for an update.

That, and we'd probably have some actual staff skill if that were the case. RDM can't even red staff proc.

[Aurara]

How is watching for enfeebs on melee standing with my thumb up my ass?

[Rayik]

How is watching for enfeebs on melee standing with my thumb up my ass?

Most melee call out what they have on them anyway, and you can be doing something else at the same time. Hell, even nuke.

And yes, I said BLU. BLU are a melee/spellcaster, and get access to all the sword-based ws RDM should. I'll admit I'm a little jealous. It's funny, the first RDM in a FF game started out with swords, the first BLU I ever saw(FF5, 6) used a staff. Irony.

[Aurara]

Most melee call out what they have on them anyway, and you can be doing something else at the same time. Hell, even nuke.

Or you could be a good mage and know what TP moves do what so you can be ready to remove the enfeeb once you see the TP move in the chatlog, like I do.

And yes, I said BLU. BLU are a melee/spellcaster, and get access to all the sword-based ws RDM should. I'll admit I'm a little jealous. It's funny, the first RDM in a FF game started out with swords, the first BLU I ever saw(FF5, 6) used a staff. Irony.

Because FFXI=every other FF game out there.