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  1. #751
    Player Supersun's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    He admitted he removed all data involving lurkers so yes it was tampered with from the start.

    No food in the game was going to make him double his damage anyway.
    No, he showed his accuracy for that camp not including lurkers to give a base minimum accuracy of what you need for the camp in general. EVERYONE has problems hitting lurkers. His actual parse DID in fact include the lurkers though (80% accuracy with them thrown in)

    (http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.htm...5&h=50&p=3#151)
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  2. #752
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    Without including the lurkers, my acc was 84.4%
    From the mamool parse, which makes it sound like he could very well have dropped the lurker data from the parse.

    If the kclub attacked once per round and had an accuracy of 84%, then it would take a mainhand accuracy of 96% (above capped) to get to an average accuracy of 90%. Since its a kclub and average many more attacks than that, the accuracy was probably around 86-88% on the club.
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  3. #753
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    I never had issues, maybe because i had feint all the time.
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  4. #754
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    Hyrist

    I just noticed you're on my server. Want to parse your RDM against my SAM at greater colibri or mammool SP synced to lvl 75? I'll give you a chance to prove you can do 80% of what I put up! My SAM isn't even that good! the odds are in your favor! But hey, this is your chance to prove your point right?

    EDIT::: Personally I don't believe the RDM can do 80% of a SAM BS but do want to see if its true =3
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    Last edited by wish12oz; 07-15-2011 at 02:22 AM.

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  5. #755
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    Hey kam, i have a 75 drg we can sync to to do this parse :3

    Edit: if you are serious you'll take us up on the offer, we'll even have outside healers so you can focus on DD only
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    Last edited by Aurara; 07-15-2011 at 02:45 AM.

  6. #756
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    So long as it's done in good faith and sportsmanship, I'm not opposed to doing another proof of concept. (Read, not the first time my gimp ass has gone up against Mamool Ja.)

    Two major concerns I have, however:

    The first one:

    This is Starfox's TP gear at the time of the 08 parse.

    Right now I'm running as follows:
    Blau/Joy Tipha
    Turban P.charm Brutal Suppa
    Goliard, Dusk, Lava's, Kusha's
    Amenant+1 Swift, Prince's, Dusk (nq)

    I'm running a rather large chunk behind in STR (should also note his max STR merits to my 1). Though I'm ahead in haste, I'm apprehensive that my damage per hit is going to suffer for the difference. I remember he was pretty Adamant about having an appropriate str boost. I could probably swap in dusk legs to help slightly. However, I don't have an adequate enough single acc ring to bring my Raja's into the equation. (That or I'm underestimating my accuracy.)

    This isn't getting into my woefully inadequate Evisceration gear. Put bluntly: I don't have one. It's just sort of patched together from gear I have, and I was going to improve upon with gear that has come out since my hiatus. But I'm not afraid of Jerry rigging it. (I'll post the full set once I've got the macro reprogrammed.) If nothing else, it'll show me where I need to emphasize changes.

    This said, the second major concern is job adjustments since said date. Samurai had Zanshin update. Not so worried about DRG, they should be where they were before.

    On the other hand, I will be using composure, which was not available at the time of Starfox's parse. So there's some give and take there as well.

    I will likely not be doing 80% of any DD that's up to par on their gear. (We've never established what 'par' was, however.) But I'm not afraid of seeing how far my current work has gotten me. We can math the difference between myself and Starfox. (Sad, if he was playing, he'd be the one to challenge, he was on Odin after all. I don't think he still plays, however.)

    So, while we're being up front, what gear sets on SAM and DRG am I going to be parsing against?
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  7. #757
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    If you have time I'd suggest getting a pair of augmented ASA pants with Acc and haste. That's a pretty big jump in damage.

    (that and dusk +1 boots are pretty cheap now, at least on my server)

    Other then maybe upgrading your back to a foragers/cerberus+1 your TP set is looking pretty solid.

    (also, another thing to note is some of the merits have been adjusted since 75)
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  8. #758
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    A good SAM was using a 6-hit and a Hagun, Polearm for Lolibri. None of the following was particularily hard to get, and I think for the most part pretty common. This SAM in a party with a BRD is going to average (1hit WS) 1100-1400, low (DA WS, 1st hit miss) 700-900 and high (Double attack) 1800-2400 - all numbers being higher with a 2nd brd or cor, meat, zerk up

    This is my old setup, a 6 hit, with a 5 hit following WS.

    TP
    http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/222742

    WS
    http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/222743
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  9. #759
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    I've been lazy with the Add-ons. Still been debating whether or not I can take the accuracy Calmecac Trousers, which would be better if I can. It's kind of hard to parse that without a solid point of comparison like back in the ToAU days.

    Even if I fail this parse hard, I'm not suddenly going to /toss my Melee gear. It's been a long standing hobby and, at the bare minimum, some of this gear will be useful pulling my BLU off the back shelf.

    Starfox said he could tango with the big DDs, he showed his evidence, I even partied with him as the Back Line RDM. These guys seem to think the DDs he parsed against sucked. I think that's a unfair assessment, but I'm not going to pretend I know SAM or DRG the way I know RDM. So lets see. I'm interested in knowing what they think is sub par gear for their class.

    But I really got to spend some time meriting. Time though, being the problem. I get on, it's dynamis/limbus/abyssea farming for a couple hours, and then I log off.
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  10. #760
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    Um.... that rdm was a gimp, there's no way he did as good as people are saying, unless the people he was parsing against were absolutely terrible.
    Also: 415 acc should be enough to cap you on anything other then lurkers, try to cap haste and hit that, and make a respectable WS set so you don't have a bunch of excuses for why you can't do it.

    As for me and my gear, I'm pretty sure I have everything useful for lvl 75 SAM, or can go get it off the AH, with the exception of amano, so lol.
    EDIT: No Justice torque, or bushi =[
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    Last edited by wish12oz; 07-15-2011 at 05:40 AM.

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