On Red Mage melee...

[Neisan_Quetz]

*Mnk has no tp gear
*Mnk has no ws gear
*Rdm has full tp/ws sets and all you can point out is the offhand in your defense? Just lol.

[Neisan_Quetz]

That wasn't his offhand...

I see a blau mainhand, so yes, you're blind.

[cidbahamut]

Blind parses don't mean a thing.

I didn't see any TP and WS gearsets being documented in that thread, so I can safely assume everyone was wielding Ash clubs and wearing Summer Festival bikinis so the results don't matter.

edit: in case there was any confusion, I'm referring to the alla thread.

[Hyrist]

No I'm stating that the entirty of that situation was pretty fucked up to begin with.

It's a great example of how horribly a RDM can do when they're not properly geared and not knowing what they're doing for certain. But all that it established was 'how bad' a RDM can do when they half ass things. All it did was prove the 'Zero to Hero' issues that RDM's gear and strategy has.

(Rdm had no enhancing gear, no WS gear, his TP gear consisted of wise feet, O-hat, scorp harness (nq) Miserecorde In short, a Bad RDM got to big for his britches and put in his place.)

And all I had to do was see K club to have to shake my head at it. It's really not a good idea to use K-club.

[cidbahamut]

It's a great example of how horribly a RDM can do when they're not properly geared and not knowing what they're doing for certain. But all that it established was 'how bad' a RDM can do when they half ass things.

Same could be said of DDs.

[Aurara]

No I'm stating that the entirty of that situation was pretty fucked up to begin with.

I know, the monk didn't even get black belt and had 0 haste gear ><

It's a great example of how horribly a RDM can get crushed by a naked monk

You are correct!

And all I had to do was see K club to have to shake my head at it. It's really not a good idea to use K-club.

Lol, ITT sushi sucks and RDM can't use sushi and KC sucks

[Neisan_Quetz]

So we can agree that a half-assed Mnk wearing nothing is better than a half-assed rdm using tp/ws sets, and a well geared Mnk/Any other DD will destroy a well geared Rdm, right?

[Neisan_Quetz]

I see 2 pictures of gear, and one of him /nin with blau main hand, so yes, you are blind still.

[Hyrist]

Same could be said of DDs.

True, it works both ways for both jobs types.

But even with Blau, RDM was doing it wrong, downright backwards. Enspells counted for about 10% of DPS when properly boosted Weapon Skills, about 30%, depending on how well geared the WS set was. Which means RDM walked out of town with the wrong idea how to do things, not uncommon.

It would be like if a naked monk faced off against a k club warrior, just the club, full timing defender and no gear but his his out of date AH TP set.

Funny, yes. And an embarassment to be sure, but it diddn't prove anything except that DD jobs are less gear dependant against low defence T mobs. Well, that and K club RDM is a huge no no on anything but elementals.