On Red Mage melee...

**saevel** · 10-11-2012 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by Karbuncle

Thought it was shown some time ago DA/TA can only proc on the first hit of Any WS?

Either way, When i made the WS Set, I quite frankly forgot Temper existed. So Maybe just 1 STR Earring, Saves me the trouble. But for THF, I'm getting 2. No reason to bother with Double Attack on THF when Triple attack is higher priority and more useful.

But RDM, I'll have to rework my train of thought.

QA / TA can only proc once, DA can proc up to twice. If a QA / TA proc they preclude a DA from procing. This was first noticed by DD's without TA getting weird returns on WS's. Now we've got so much DA available that it happens pretty often. Those extra hits are still subject to acc cap though, so the more you have the less likely they'll all land.

Anytime your in positive DA then Brutal wins, it's only when Brutal's effective DA rate drops under 5 that other items start to beat it. Honestly the STR earring is rarely the best choice in slot, there is a reason nearly everyone use's brutal.

**Karbuncle** · 10-11-2012 02:39 AM

There's a reason a lot of SAMs used to wear Hachiman Domaru too.

Ignorance.

I see you're right with RDM Saev, and to a deeper point, Right for the most part. However, I Think THF is just the exception to the Brutal Rule, as Triple Attack priority over DA, and our high rate of Triple Attack degrades the value of DA Ever so very slightly. Still, Maybe 1 STR Earring is the solution for even THF. Truthfully, I wouldn't be entirely too surprised, But at the same time, It'd just save me a couple Mil, I'd be okay with that.

Just, You have to understand my skepticism when it comes to things like... "Everyones doing it" when we're perpetually surrounded by people who would likely forget how to breath if not for need too. For all we know, Much like the "Double Attack takes priority over Triple Attack", People could have just assumed it was this way X year ago and never bothered to retest it.

Still, That note aside, Saev, Whats your WS Gear like?

**saevel** · 10-11-2012 04:01 AM

Well when I say "everyone" I'm talking about all the math peoples and the gear buildings over at ffxiah.com job forums. You can get pretty detailed gear sets for things like Resolution (100% STR mod) and what not. I purposely exclude the snowflakes and ignorant (proper meaning of the word) from my comparisons.

For RDM I use CDC and Req, toyed with the idea of making a Mandau but I'm a sword lover at heart (sword chucks yo).

Current CDC WS set

head>Brego helm</head>
<neck>Rancor collar</neck>
<lear>Moonshade earring</lear>
<rear>Brutal Earring</rear>
<body>Antares harness</body>
<hands>Warlock's gloves +1</hands>
<lring>Thundersoul ring</lring>
<rring>Rajas ring</rring>
<back>Atheling mantle</back>
<waist>Wanion belt</waist>
<legs>Tumbler trunks</legs>
<feet>Lithe boots</feet>

Requiescat set

<head>Ruach crown</head>
<neck>Soil gorget</neck>
<lear>Moonshade earring</lear>
<rear>Brutal earring</rear>
<body>Heka's kalasiris</body>
<hands>Duelist's gloves +2</hands>
<lring>Aquasoul Ring</lring>
<rring>Aquasoul Ring</rring>
<back>Atheling mantle</back>
<waist>Soil belt</waist>
<legs>Rubeus spats</legs>
<feet>Estoqueur's houseaux +2</feet>

TP Set

<head>Zelus tiara</head>
<neck>Nefarious collar</neck>
<lear>Suppanomimi</lear>
<rear>Brutal Earring</rear>
<body>Kudzu aketon</body>
<hands>Brego gloves</hands>
<lring>Tyrant's ring</lring>
<rring>Rajas ring</rring>
<back>Atheling mantle</back>
<waist>Phasmida belt</waist>
<legs>Rubeus spats</legs>
<feet>Eurus' ledelsens</feet>

Their pretty decent, not much else I can do except the Arch Ultima body coupled with those boots from the Quitrib NM. RDM's gear selection really sucks, very limited DEX options and mediocre TP options. Lots of MND options for Req though, just not enough attack boosts to counter it's -20% penalty. That penalty really needs to go.

**Babekeke** · 10-11-2012 03:13 PM

I have to admit, having only levelled RDM as a P2 whore, I've never melee'd in it, and I doubt I ever even bought Temper, so I forgot it's existence >.>

**Demon6324236** · 10-25-2012 08:39 AM

Just a question rq, which would be better for RDM to TP with, Mars's or Pyrosoul? Current goal is this so tryin to figure out which ring should be better overall.

**Karbuncle** · 10-25-2012 09:32 AM

Mars by leaps and bounds.

**Demon6324236** · 10-25-2012 09:37 AM

Assumed so, ty!

**Babekeke** · 10-26-2012 03:05 PM

Wouldn't it depend on what you're fighting? And whether you already have enough acc to use att food, or if you're using acc food and over-capping acc already?

**Demon6324236** · 10-26-2012 03:29 PM

Probably but when generally speaking about RDM so far as I know its assumed your wanting more acc, however T3 Zilart VW has had me with capped acc in parse for each kill lately so~ dunno if that really would be better in the end. I would think its still better overall probably because my current set has about~ 20 more acc that that set does without Mars's, I would figure Mars's probably offsets that loss for the most part.

**saevel** · 10-26-2012 06:03 PM

Mars in general is the better choice, or possibly Tyrant's if it helps you lower your hits to 100. WS time is important to anyone doing damage, not just 2h melees.

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