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    Rancor Collar + Atheling will beat out Nef + Rancor back. Rancor back has +3% DA to go with the +20 Attack. Your looking at gaining 3%crit at the expense of 3% DA and some attack.

    Brego helm sucks vs Zelus, the 6 STR and DEX don't even compare to what the 2% haste does, but more importantly it opens up other slots for different stats. Brego help does make a good Ws piece, and a good stand-in until someone has Zelus. If your acc is over cap then Calmeric over Rub, Rub is slightly better if your need the 18 accuracy, extra 5 attack and +2.2 fSTR. STR Sword is pretty much your best option unless your fighting EP's bordering on TW's.

    The big rub is the body piece, Goliard is 4% haste and ACP Body can be 10 attack 10 acc, or 3% DW. I've been debating which way to go, ACP DW (10 atk 3DW) Erus's feet or Goliard + Rager feet. I'm leading toward the ACP set being stronger in the long run but god I hate the look of that body.
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    ACP/Eurus is coming out 2% ahead of Goli/Rager if acc capped. Falls behind by the same amount if acc uncapped.
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    Brego helm sucks vs Zelus, the 6 STR and DEX don't even compare to what the 2% haste does, but more importantly it opens up other slots for different stats.
    You do realize that Ephemeron has Haste+3%, Which allows for the use of a Different head other than Zelus and still cap haste, Which is the only reason Brego Helm is even in the first set? Thats why the second set, without Ephem, Has Zelus.

    Second, I actually mentioned Calma. Trousers.

    Also, The only reason theres more Coruscantis is because Qilin is spammed way more often than Aello :| If people actually did Aello... The Sword is still really nice though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    You do realize that Ephemeron has Haste+3%, Which allows for the use of a Different head other than Zelus and still cap haste, Which is the only reason Brego Helm is even in the first set? Thats why the second set, without Ephem, Has Zelus.

    Second, I actually mentioned Calma. Trousers.

    Also, The only reason theres more Coruscantis is because Qilin is spammed way more often than Aello :| If people actually did Aello... The Sword is still really nice though.
    Ok 3% haste on sword for 6STR 6DEX on head vs 11 STR 22 Attack on sword 8% haste on head. It actually ends up very slightly behind. It would entirely depend on how potent that Drain Tp effect is and how it interacts with Enspells. If it's anything like what recent Coruscanti testing has shown, it'll be a very low proc rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    Ok 3% haste on sword for 6STR 6DEX on head vs 11 STR 22 Attack on sword 8% haste on head. It actually ends up very slightly behind. It would entirely depend on how potent that Drain Tp effect is and how it interacts with Enspells. If it's anything like what recent Coruscanti testing has shown, it'll be a very low proc rate.
    You're completely discounting Ephemeron's TP: Drain, Which, IF the video is any example(Which is a huge stretch i know), rather potent. Sure, Its an Unknown Factor, But if it drains even ~10~20 TP, Its offering more than a piddly amount of Acc and attack will ever do for your TP Phase.

    Plus, Ephemeron may be hard to get, But that doesn't discredit its uses... If you're going to get a Level 99 Almace as an Example, You can Put Ephemeron as an Example.

    Since you can Spam Aello for Pouches for your 99 Almace anyway

    As far as proc rate, Even 10% Proc rate with 10-20TP Drain would be a significant Boost. Coruscanti is just... Sad, i admit. Wish I could find someone with this Sword. The one i saw drop went to a WHM i think. yah...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    You're completely discounting Ephemeron's TP: Drain, Which, IF the video is any example(Which is a huge stretch i know), rather potent. Sure, Its an Unknown Factor, But if it drains even ~10~20 TP, Its offering more than a piddly amount of Acc and attack will ever do for your TP Phase.

    Plus, Ephemeron may be hard to get, But that doesn't discredit its uses... If you're going to get a Level 99 Almace as an Example, You can Put Ephemeron as an Example.

    Since you can Spam Aello for Pouches for your 99 Almace anyway

    As far as proc rate, Even 10% Proc rate with 10-20TP Drain would be a significant Boost. Coruscanti is just... Sad, i admit. Wish I could find someone with this Sword. The one i saw drop went to a WHM i think. yah...
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    I said,
    It would entirely depend on how potent that Drain Tp effect is and how it interacts with Enspells
    I didn't discount it, but there is no known info. And if it's anything like twilight then it'll be overwritten by enspells. Once I have actual into then I can count it. Also I didn't use 99 Almace, I used 90 Almace because that is what I have. I try to only use gear that either I have or can easily acquire. This allows me to be somewhat realistic about gear.
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    Turns out ACP ATK/DW body + Eurus feet is better then Goliard + Rager's, so looks like I'm switching out my ACP body after all.

    And IDK if moten broke something, but Req is kicking CDC's ass in WS damage. With all the MND we can get it jacks the WSC up. Gorget and Belt add +0.2 fTP to each hit, turns a 5.0 fTP ws into a 6.0 fTP one before off hand. CDC's ODD might put it ahead in the end but both wiki's lack any info about the proc rates. I would take a WAG at ~10~20% but I really want the actual tested one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    Turns out ACP ATK/DW body + Eurus feet is better then Goliard + Rager's, so looks like I'm switching out my ACP body after all.

    And IDK if moten broke something, but Req is kicking CDC's ass in WS damage. With all the MND we can get it jacks the WSC up. Gorget and Belt add +0.2 fTP to each hit, turns a 5.0 fTP ws into a 6.0 fTP one before off hand. CDC's ODD might put it ahead in the end but both wiki's lack any info about the proc rates. I would take a WAG at ~10~20% but I really want the actual tested one.
    Req is actually 'fixed', since I informed Mot about the issue with replicating ftp. Excal actually beats Almace on weaker mobs. Falls behind on stronger stuff due to attack penalty.

    Although I doubt you'll even read this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    Req is actually 'fixed', since I informed Mot about the issue with replicating ftp. Excal actually beats Almace on weaker mobs. Falls behind on stronger stuff due to attack penalty.

    Although I doubt you'll even read this.
    Wait...so req used to have replicating FTP and now it was 'fixed' to not replicate, or the other way around? I hadnt heard anything about this being changed so which way is it now?
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    Ok played with things a bit and using ACP DW body + Eru's feet I can get 90 Almace + Eph to be 0.00839% better then 90 Almace + STR Shikagar.

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    I stand corrected, VS anything T or higher the Eph off hand starts to lose to the Shikagar. LCF's effect sucks.

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    Don't want to create a bunch of self reply's.

    With 0 ODD (can't find a number to put in there) Req Spam beats out Almace CDC by a very narrow margin on harder things (high defense NM's over your level). Vs weaker things it easily beats it. On much harder things it lose's to CDC. Really want a better ODD number to plug in because that could sway the numbers on the NM with high defense.

    Otherwise, the Req gear is ridiculously easy to get. Any decent RDM will have most of this already, its your MND enfeebling gear.

    Well Seriha finally got what they wanted. A "hybrid" WS that RDM can naively use.
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