On Red Mage melee...

[Rayik]

Straight up, any Red Mage that only Hastes, Refreshes, and Cures is a Monster Trucking horrible Red Mage.

You keep saying this, and you never follow up. "There's so many things" is a cop-out if you don't elaborate. Please, tell us what else we're supposed to be doing when the mob is immune/resistant to our enfeebles, other than cure/buff cycle? Nuke? RDM nukes are weak, and more often than not I get asked to stop nuking so I have more mp to cure with.

[cidbahamut]

Nuke? RDM nukes are weak, and more often than not I get asked to stop nuking so I have more mp to cure with.

I'm going to stop being snarky for a minute here and ask what your nuking gear and damage output on nukes looks like. I want to know how it stacks up against my own and learn where you're drawing the cut-off line for nuking damage being considered "weak". Are you just getting resisted a bunch or are the numbers simply too far behind say a Black Mage to be deemed cost-effective in your estimation?

[Rayik]

I'm going to stop being snarky for a minute here and ask what your nuking gear and damage output on nukes looks like. I want to know how it stacks up against my own and learn where you're drawing the cut-off line for nuking damage being considered "weak". Are you just getting resisted a bunch or are the numbers simply too far behind say a Black Mage to be deemed cost-effective in your estimation?

Nuking has always been secondary and never has been a huge focus of mine. I play with my wife most of the time, and she's a BLM. So maybe my nukes aren't so bad, just look bad in comparison. But for the lulz, here's my nuking set:

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/226566

I did not go out of my way to "build" this set, this is just what I happen to have on-hand. Staffs are situational depending on the spell. Spiral ring just because it has the +5 INT and haven't had a need to upgrade. I just got the +1 AF3 body last week, haven't tried using it for the Acc over Augur's yet. My skill is around 300, before merits, so admittedly not capped.

So there, I have nothing to hide. I can admit when I'm gimp. When I'm on RDM, I'm usually called on to cure and buff cycle in the group of friends I play with. Nuking has always been secondary.

[Greatguardian]

Why are you making a million disconnected posts back to back? Who are you replying to in them? What the hell are you trying to say and why does it take 10 posts to say it?

[CapriciousOne]

Why are you making a million disconnected posts back to back? Who are you replying to in them? What the hell are you trying to say and why does it take 10 posts to say it?

Did it ever occur to you that maybe those 10 post are related to 10 DIFFERENT ITEMS? Of course it didn't. Still from what I"m seeing most of you are using the linear display that shows all the posts in order of date and time, which I never use as explained in other post to Rayik. It also explains alot about the kind of players this game and why RDM melee is such an issue in the first place. *shrugs* In anycase whatever all this is answered in Hybrid and Threaded display views if you bothered to use that brain of yours to actually figure out those answer on your own but that is too much work and hurts your head I guess.

[Rayik]

Did it ever occur to you that maybe those 10 post are related to 10 DIFFERENT ITEMS? Of course it didn't. Still from what I"m seeing most of you are using the linear display that shows all the posts in order of date and time, which I never use as explained in other post to Rayik. It also explains alot about the kind of players this game and why RDM melee is such an issue in the first place. *shrugs* In anycase whatever all this is answered in Hybrid and Threaded display views if you bothered to use that brain of yours to actually figure out those answer on your own but that is too much work and hurts your head I guess.

If you were responding to 10 different things, the least you could do is give some kind of context to what you were responding too. Doesn't even need to be a quote of the full comment, just delete everything that isn't in direct reference to your response. I'm sure your responses were thorough and interesting, but trying to read them felt like stumbling into the middle of a conversation.

The burden of "figuring out what you were talking about" is really on you, since you are the one doing the posting. If you are using a means of viewing the thread that is apparently causing confusion to every other person attempting to read your post, then it is you who needs to adjust the means you use to view the forum. Do not expect a forum of strangers to adjust to your view style, when the means we are currently using works just fine for us.

[Supersun]

Please quote who you are replying to and please edit your previous post instead of posting back to back.

[Rayik]

Please quote who you are replying to and please edit your previous post instead of posting back to back.

Whew, thought it was just me or I had whoever he was quoting blocked or something.

CapriciousOne, PLEASE give the context as to what on earth you are talking about!

[CapriciousOne]

To Rayik and everybody else in the forums:

I tend to look at the posts in threaded and hybrid view view where it shows the relationship to who I am responding to I dont like linear view for that reason. In case you still can't follow I will try to do that as well to help you guys out. I dont quote large posts in general unless I am debating multiple points made in the OP. Hope this helps

[cidbahamut]

Thanks very much. It looks like you're rocking a bit more magic accuracy than I am, but a little less potency. I'm finding my current build is pretty solid on low-end mobs, dropping Blizzard IV for about 1.2-1.4k outside Abyssea and 2-2.5k inside. It's a little lower on NMs. I started looking over the numbers for some of the more resistant NMs though and the resist rate just left me totally discouraged so I'm looking to do some tweaking in the near future or just a build for resists in general.

My set as it stands right now: http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/189566

I wouldn't worry too much about Black Mages making your nukes look bad, they're supposed to since that's all they've really got going for them. It doesn't mean you shouldn't bother though.

*shrug*

I enjoy it as something I can add to my mix of spellcasting. Then again I haven't seen other people's damage numbers in months due to chat filters so there's that too.