On Red Mage melee...

[Karbuncle]

during the 2h update all 1h and hth dmg was capped , my monk with destroyers litterly could not hit harder then 163dmg a punch. *doesnt seem like an issue until* you go from being able to solo anything in the VT or lower range to barely able to kill a DC , i wanna say the 163 was on crit hits hold on ill find a link for all the rdms bah creams old SS's of the dmg cap are dead.

I actually remember that, I was using Daggers though, Was running up Delkfutts tower right after the update and stopped to kill something, Noticed all my attacks did the same damage (including Critical hits) and was like "WTF".

[Gokku]

I actually remember that, I was using Daggers though, Was running up Delkfutts tower right after the update and stopped to kill something, Noticed all my attacks did the same damage (including Critical hits) and was like "WTF".

yup 2 handed update was the closest ive ever gotten to rage perm quitting ffxi. idk with SE's track record for "fixing" jobs if i was a rdm i wouldnt be asking for shit id try to stay under there radar and get away with as much shit as i can. look at poor Drg, it took years and a worse job before SE said sorry and unscrewed them and i dont feel like they have or will ever recover from it, and same goes to ranger.

[Duelle]

idk with SE's track record for "fixing" jobs if i was a rdm i wouldnt be asking for shit id try to stay under there radar and get away with as much shit as i can.

Which would leave us with a playstyle most of us have grown tired of, a job archetype still covered in poop, and the lack of completion at seeing a guy with a sword that can cast magic being good for little more than healing and casting buffs.

look at poor Drg, it took years and a worse job before SE said sorry and unscrewed them and i dont feel like they have or will ever recover from it, and same goes to ranger.

The changes to DRG and RNG were under a different developer team (whether they could recognize good class design if it hit them in the face with a 2x4 is another matter). I don't know if the new guys subscribe to the Tanaka or Matsui schools of development, but it's worth a shot to try to bring about change, IMO.

[cidbahamut]

Which would leave us with a playstyle most of us have grown tired of, a job archetype still covered in poop, and the lack of completion at seeing a guy with a sword that can cast magic being good for little more than healing and casting buffs.

You sound very unhappy. Have you considered leveling another class that might be better suited to what you're looking for?

[Neisan_Quetz]

Not the initial update >< I mean after the adjustment so that it wasn't 1 str = 1 attack, that was pretty broken. On the flipside of 2h becoming much stronger before that 2H weapons sucked, alot.

[Doombringer]

i hate the 2hander update... i really do.. it ruined war for me..

i PICKED warrior... because it was the duel wield DD... and now it isn't..... if war wasn't such a big deal in abyssea i prolly woulda just left it at 75 forever.

plus, if they felt that 2handed weapons were underpowered, why re-write the rules of the game for them? why not add grips with more significant stat bonus'? why not add 2 handed weapons with higher base damage? or just straight up increase the dmg on existing weapons? (like they did with daggers so long ago?) why did they need to re-write the game so every chump who happens to be holding his weapon with both hands gets a free +30 atk/acc? and then lets raise the atk function for them to, why not?


i remember my war had.. maneater, juggernaut, perdu hanger, and joyeuse.. basically everything i could have wanted except a ridill.. then overnight i became "gimp"...... bullshit >.>

[Neisan_Quetz]

Idk, if your A+ weapon is being disregarded for B skill weapons (in Drk and War's Case, yea War has A- in Axe but you still offhanded B swords depending) then something is wrong with that. That and pretty much everyone was subbing Nin, SE doesn't seem to like that.

2h get more attack/accuracy but need more attack to cap it as well.

Wasn't the best fix but I don't see it as the worst adjustment ever, War still did/does good damage, just changed back to its main weapon.

Original Rng nerf falls under one of worst adjustments ever, did nothing but greatly reduce the amount of people playing Rng.

[Seriha]

Could satisfaction be found in other jobs? Sure. I like playing BLU. I don't think it's useless outside of Abyssea as you've repeated multiple times now, but I also believe that similar, yet different can be achieved. Ignoring it won't make that happen. Quitting FFXI won't make that happen. You might not like the concept of a paying subscription justifying a voice, but if at any point in your life you've ever hoped for the most of your dollar, then we're on some common ground. That said, surely you've realized by now that you're not going to change the minds of those who've been at this for a while. Some might give up the fight, sure, and I can't blame them when you get broadsided by your fellow players on one end and given the silent treatment by SE on the other. And while RDM has been a personal focus for me for a long time now, I'm a believer that SE has been universally too timid when it comes to adjusting all jobs, exception being the two-handed update. While the RNG "nerf" certainly wasn't handled as best as it could've been, it also happens to be a job where a conceptual point was being violated with the job often meleeing more than shooting. SE just happened to have the balls to act on it and guide players toward their vision, awkward as it still is with ammo expense and enmity issues complicating the distance game.

[Gokku]

i wonder if the coin was flipped and rdm had plenty off DD ability but damn near no useful spells would the same argument not be had about "make our spells better" "why cant we cast more then cure 3" etc etc.

[Duelle]

i wonder if the coin was flipped and rdm had plenty of DD ability but damn near no useful spells would the same argument not be had about "make our spells better" "why cant we cast more then cure 3" etc etc.

Depends on the mechanics already in place and what the job already brings to the table. This is a what if, so could go either way, I would think.