Level 99s destroying Campaign for leveling

[Karbuncle]

I won't go as far as saying this is the stupidest thing i've read, but its definitely a top 10 in the selfish request department. But i digress, Anyway, the next few paragraphs are basic musing abouts campaign, not directed at one general individual, unless specified elsewhere.

Basically, This content is actually quite beneficial to level 99 players, since it gives access to large amounts of Allied Notes, which turn into large amounts of delicious Voiddust for those people still 0/800 On the drop they want cause SE is still "Working as intended" These unbelievably stupid drop rates. *ahem*, I'm getting off track. (PS f**k Pil)

Me, Personally, I love busting out the DRK and going to Resolution the mobs so quick their heads spin. I even go on SMN Sometimes and bust out the Shattersoul! Hell, My Melee summoner usually out DD's and tanks most of the gimps i see in campaign... I think the real solution to not getting terrible exp in campaign is to actually gear your job and try to not suck so much, thats always a good solution.

Oh, and I do so love taking Mandau to slaughter some stupid campaign enemies, She loves the fresh blood... Plus, her favorite past-time is stabbing, and I'll continue to do such things.

So, Long rant short, instead of being short-sighted and a bit selfish and suggestion to nerf level 99's, Why not ask them to Un-Nerf campaign and actually BUFF Campaign to a point that its more beneficial to everyone.

Nerfs ruin a game, Buffs help.

[HimuraKenshyn]

/facepalm nerf really??? Wow how short sighted can anyone truly be just makes me want to bang my head against the wall when ever I read these please nerf X cause ur crying being a gimp...

[Lienn]

Gonna have to ask why you think Lv99 players are "troublemakers" based on the Original Posters rant about their weaponskills killing Lv75 game content so fast.......

The thing is that the 99 behavior of claiming armies is very common (at least at shiva). I agree with you...campaign was designed to be something fun to do but, at same time, it should be fun to everyone...not only to that dude who claimed the army.

I'll give a real example that happened a few weeks ago in Vunkerl...army arrived and all...then a RDM with already 5 mobs on him passed by, casted on the mob i just engaged, same on the mob of the dude at my side and run away with them all the way north til that pass NW of the fortification. When we went after him he moved in ever farther.

Feel free to elaborate about how fun this was to me or to the other dude who got the mob stolen.

Also, if it was something rare to see it would be np...but every time i go do campaign i see similar thing happening in at least 1/3 of the runs. It's no longer just "some rude 99s"...it already became the natural behavior of 99s during campaign (again, i'm talking about shiva only...i never played in a server other than it).

So it's what i said at my previous post...while nerf isn't an option (would make no sense nerfing the 99s) i do think countermeasures to this behavior do should be added.

[Raka]

I'll give a real example that happened a few weeks ago in Vunkerl...army arrived and all...then a RDM with already 5 mobs on him passed by, casted on the mob i just engaged, same on the mob of the dude at my side and run away with them all the way north til that pass NW of the fortification. When we went after him he moved in ever farther.

Feel free to elaborate about how fun this was to me or to the other dude who got the mob stolen.

I did mention that there are people who did this and yes, it is very much disrespectful, however not much else to do unless SquareEnix begins to consider it as an offense to keep dragging away the herd of Beastmen when another player is trying to participate in Campaign Battle. I only ever see this with maybe 3 different players on my server when it happens and it does get frustrating, so perhaps instead of asking to change game workings to make Campaign Battle already more irritating for those who like to conquer and control all the areas. Perhaps try to get SquareEnix to enforce this as a violation that can result in the player being jailed, etc..

Quite an easy fix and at the same time, it will rid us of the arrogant players who get this way. But as long as the Beastmen are kept near the Fortification, it's not a problem for me personally. I dislike those who hide the mobs and take their time killing them all just because of Union Coffers.

Speaking of which... There is another way to someone fix the greed issue. I'm sure atleast 80% of the people that do this and hide all the mobs, are only doing it for the chance at currency via Union Coffers. Get rid of the Union Coffers, fix alot of headache. Nothing from those Coffers is worth selling anymore. Go sell Voiddust that you can purchase w/ Notes instead.

A leash effect on the Beastmen can be a problem cause: 1) 2004 FFXI all over again, people can abuse this leash to MPK other players and keep the mobs for themselves this way. 2) It can be abused to kill certain mobs that are otherwise a little difficult for most classes to solo, etc..

I'd stick with a simple GM call and a teleport to jail for players who grab all the mobs and run off/hide to kill. Those people deserve to be jailed.

[Raka]

Nerfs ruin a game, Buffs help.

You have my thumbs-up, 100 times over.

[Spiritreaver]

The thing is that the 99 behavior of claiming armies is very common (at least at shiva). I agree with you...campaign was designed to be something fun to do but, at same time, it should be fun to everyone...not only to that dude who claimed the army.

I'll give a real example that happened a few weeks ago in Vunkerl...army arrived and all...then a RDM with already 5 mobs on him passed by, casted on the mob i just engaged, same on the mob of the dude at my side and run away with them all the way north til that pass NW of the fortification. When we went after him he moved in ever farther.

Feel free to elaborate about how fun this was to me or to the other dude who got the mob stolen.

Also, if it was something rare to see it would be np...but every time i go do campaign i see similar thing happening in at least 1/3 of the runs. It's no longer just "some rude 99s"...it already became the natural behavior of 99s during campaign (again, i'm talking about shiva only...i never played in a server other than it).

So it's what i said at my previous post...while nerf isn't an option (would make no sense nerfing the 99s) i do think countermeasures to this behavior do should be added.

There are always going to be rude players doing crap to others that while in total bad taste are not against the rules. That is something that is never going to change. Ever, in real life or in an MMO like FFXI.

And if you want an example of what can happen in relation to FFXI when the players ask the devs to try and curb crap behavior from a small percentage of players, just look at Walk of Echos.

[nyheen]

ya!! them 99 bullies always beating me up and taking my lunch money.. let just kick them out of campaign so they can go lvl in abyssea and them leech/keymen can stop "destroying" abyssea and can go back to campaign

[Chocobits]

If I had magically and randomly been put in charge of FFXI development for the past 5 years, I would have applied broad and sweeping measures to ensure that there was a clear line of demarcation for each physical level of progression in the game by making certain zones/area/content optimized for specific level ranges. IE: Exp, crafting items, battlefield rewards would flow like water for specific areas/enemies/battlefields for players at a targeted level range, and the rewards for being outside of that level range (lower or higher level) would become pretty much nil, discouraging cross camping by lots of high levels or low levels using third party tools..

I've been saying (since 2006 I believe...?) that having content that is equally rewarding for everyone at every level is just going to cause everyone to rush to level cap to make the most efficient use of that content..

So the answer isn't a nerf persay.. nerfs are like waiting until chaos breaks out in the streets and using riot police to quell the insurrection.. as opposed to designing content for targeted levels properly and taking preventative measures.. and I was vocal on the subject at as many FFXI sites as I had access to.

I can understand OP's frustration. And I lol'd at the DRG super jump analogy. I had literally that precise thing happen to me once. I cussed. In retrospect, it was the first time I had ever seriously been trolled in game and it's a fond memory now. But rant thread is only a rant thread if you're not suggesting viable alternatives..

[Kraggy]

I love the derision tossed at me here, I guess a lot of it is from the 99 PLD/DNCs who can SOLO an entire attack group, NM and all his mobs, way from the OP and where only those running around looking can find them: it's worse now than back when Campaign first came out and groups of 75s would drag the mobs.

And yes, it needs a nerf, it's asinine that content that provides the vast amount of Voidust and other reasons 99s are farming LEVEL SEVENTY-FIVE content, when SE have in the past nerfed 'exploits' like Fortification bashing for XP.

Of course, most here refuse to see this is the same since they're the ones making Campaign largely impossible for those still leveling through it and see nothing wrong with being antisocial like these 99 PLD/DNCs are, or the BST who do the same thing.

[Demon6324236]

And yes, it needs a nerf, it's asinine that content that provides the vast amount of Voidust and other reasons 99s are farming LEVEL SEVENTY-FIVE content, when SE have in the past nerfed 'exploits' like Fortification bashing for XP.

So, they should remove Voiddust and completely kill any chance of Campaign being done by 95% of the population, because you encountered some assholes. In case you didn't know, dust is part of the incentive that keeps Campaign alive at all, and seeing as its a large server wide event, no 1 man or small group can really fight an entire war alone. What you ask, means the end of Campaign as a meaningful event, and makes it nothing but an exp grind for you.

Going past that event, dust is a vital resource that is needed for Voidwatch. Your asking to remove that from Campaign, its easiest source, so really your request hurts both Campaign and VW, and depending on if you still want WS and gear nerfs, lets add in every other piece of endgame content. Advice, live with it, your asking to screw a ton of people because you met some assholes, and cant realize the scope of who your screwing with your request.