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    Player Ryce's Avatar
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    I agree with Trumpy... every single update they have ever released has had minor changes, additions, etc that were not advertised before the update. They do, however, appear on the update notes. SE has no obligation to announce/vet every detail on this forum before they launch an update. Frankly, Kraggy, your "unacceptable" rant is unacceptable.
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    well thats nice to know Camate. I always hate when i find my blu spell list reset. Cause i keep them in a very specific order. And it always gets reset randomly when i log in. Least this time i no why.

    Is their any way you could add a sort feature to blu magic (in addition to auto and manual) that would sort all currently set blu spells to the top of the list? That would help save a lot of time when have to reorganize everything.
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    Player Mirage's Avatar
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    I dunno about you others, but I always read the release notes when version updates happen.

    I thought the explanation was reasonable enough. They needed to change a lot of the information related to the current spell list in order to make it possible to add new spells, and in the process, keeping the existing manual-sort data in place was hard to do (because, as they admitted, the old data structure was a real mess), so it was just reset instead. Hopefully, the new spell data is made in a way that is easier to deal with if they need to make changes in the future.

    Sucks that we have to reorder the list, but it's not exactly the end of the world.
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    Player Mayoyama's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraggy View Post
    Frankly, this was unacceptable, your explanation fails to explain why existing spell lists needed to be resorted at all, many of us MANUALLY do it and for us your explanation has no apparent relevance.

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    Their explanation was more than "acceptable". In case you didnt bother to read properly:

    A) In order to add new spells/abilities (especially for the 2 new jobs being implemented) they had to reset the lists and adjust the addresses so there was enough space for future expansion (unless you dont like new spells/abilities?)

    B) As others have said, SE have no obligation to announce absolutely everything that will happen in an update. Some things are more last-minute "o, we better quickly do X so that we can later do Y" and thus may not be able to be announced ahead of time.

    C) They also explained that they tried to convert the data so that it wouldnt mess with people's manually sorted lists but given the way in which the game is programmed (and all the tangled spagetti code slapped on over 10 years) they couldnt do it.

    D) Lastly, you can take comfort in knowing your spell list wont be reset again until after the expansion is out (and thus you have been forewarned about a possible future reset!!)

    /rant off
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    Last edited by Mayoyama; 12-15-2012 at 04:09 PM.
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    Player Dragoy's Avatar
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    Heh, I didn't even remember reading it in the update notes, which I always do read, but after looking back, I remembered I did... well, sort of. I think I was distracted by something(s) at the time, which is probably why it didn't stick, but in any case, the entry about it is rather poorly done. It's easy to miss, and looks like a side-note (as in, not something as major as it actually is).

    The fact that they posted about this is probably a proof of a lot of people missing that little note, so I wouldn't go and assume people just don't read them at all (which no doubt true in lots of cases).


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