Question for Devs regarding cleave

[Lokithor]

Greetings,

To clarify the situation -- normal players will not get in trouble for advertising power leveling services on their own. We will thoroughly investigate whether or not the users soliciting for the service are affiliated with RMT activity and take action against those that are. However, in the event players are supporting RMT activity and services, there is a possibility of being punished as well. Therefore, we ask users to be careful not to involve themselves in activity that is associated with RMT.

So, players are free to provide power levelling, same as RMT, but if they participate in an RMT organized power leveling activity, whether they know them as RMT or not, they can be banned? Only SE thinks that it is OK to kick out paying customers in the face of a declining player base. Awesome.

Maybe you should think of ways to control RMT that do not involve bystander casualties. Just a thought.

[Demon6324236]

Maybe you should think of ways to control RMT that do not involve bystander casualties. Just a thought.

Likely easier said than done.

[Kraggy]

Greetings,

To clarify the situation -- normal players will not get in trouble for advertising power leveling services on their own. We will thoroughly investigate whether or not the users soliciting for the service are affiliated with RMT activity and take action against those that are. However, in the event players are supporting RMT activity and services, there is a possibility of being punished as well. Therefore, we ask users to be careful not to involve themselves in activity that is associated with RMT.

History tells us that it's kind of complacent to think 'RMT activity' is so easily or accurately determined by SE .. as the many hundreds or thousands of legitimate gardeners, for example, found to their cost some years ago.

[Kraggy]

Maybe you should think of ways to control RMT that do not involve bystander casualties. Just a thought.

There are many examples in the history of this game, some still active, where normal, legitimate players are considered 'collateral damage' by SE in their fixation on their war with RMT.

God knows I'm no lover of RMT, but SE show no common sense or sense of proportion sometimes, and it's we players who are often the casualties of this war, either having to suffer asinine in-game mechanics (at best) or else getting unfairly banned and never reinstated (at worst).

[bigdave]

rmt is cause by the demand of the user not the supplier so if they remove the need then no rmt would ever open up shop again

[samusaron]

If you Can Charge people to Levell them up and have from 3 to 10 Hour's spare in your Rl , then the Question one need to ask is , Why do you have so much time to do this and is this your Full time occupation ? there are other eans to make Gil in Game and especially it seem's you have so much time on your Had's to do so evidently.

RMT Behaviour is exactly that , it is their full time occupation in game to make Gil and to sell period. there is no fine line to read.If you charge people to play for levelling them , then you are an RMT. What do you do with Gil ? Sell it? Afcause you do.

Normal players play the game for Fun and do not have 3>6>9 hour's to Burn making money and if you do this you are RMT is this Clear enough ?

[samusaron]

Further to my Last post.

SE has made it Very Clear Charging for Abyssea xp parties is seen as RMT Behaviour. so if you do this you will be Banned.

Is that not Clear enough as it states or you can take a risk and be Banned. Personally I report anyone shouting for Gil xp parties at Port Jueno . I hope you are not one of those , so dont even think about trying to do it or face the consequences.

[Mirage]

So, players are free to provide power levelling, same as RMT, but if they participate in an RMT organized power leveling activity, whether they know them as RMT or not, they can be banned? Only SE thinks that it is OK to kick out paying customers in the face of a declining player base. Awesome.

Maybe you should think of ways to control RMT that do not involve bystander casualties. Just a thought.

They're likely just saying "may" or "can" be banned to cover all their bases. Saying "you will never ever be banned if you just say you didn't know" makes it too easy to get away with it again.

[Ezikiel]

If you Can Charge people to Levell them up and have from 3 to 10 Hour's spare in your Rl , then the Question one need to ask is , Why do you have so much time to do this and is this your Full time occupation ? there are other eans to make Gil in Game and especially it seem's you have so much time on your Had's to do so evidently.

RMT Behaviour is exactly that , it is their full time occupation in game to make Gil and to sell period. there is no fine line to read.If you charge people to play for levelling them , then you are an RMT. What do you do with Gil ? Sell it? Afcause you do.

Normal players play the game for Fun and do not have 3>6>9 hour's to Burn making money and if you do this you are RMT is this Clear enough ?

i work customer service from home and have 9 hours to play im not a RMT

[Vivivivi]

No, if you knowingly join one, or join one that obviously is one.

How would you tell the difference? I don't know!

Things that are usually a dead giveaway: little or no rare/ex equipment, no linkshell, and character names that don't make much sense.