Question for Devs regarding cleave

[Kincard]

Thanks for checking Okipuit.

You missed my point that while not every party will let you do this, it's completely possible to do what you describe in an ordinary abyssea party (especially if you're friends with someone in the party)

That's true, though the last few times I went to Altepa it was a pretty standard thing to boot anyone that went afk for an extended period of time, especially if they never mention anything, mostly because people prefer to keep it as a single alliance at the dolls so it doesn't get really confusing.

[Raksha]

Greetings,

To clarify the situation -- normal players will not get in trouble for advertising power leveling services on their own. We will thoroughly investigate whether or not the users soliciting for the service are affiliated with RMT activity and take action against those that are. However, in the event players are supporting RMT activity and services, there is a possibility of being punished as well. Therefore, we ask users to be careful not to involve themselves in activity that is associated with RMT.

So I can sell spots in my own cleave party just fine, but if I unknowingly join an RMT cleave party i'm supporting RMT activity and services and will be punished?

[Mirage]

No, if you knowingly join one, or join one that obviously is one.

How would you tell the difference? I don't know!

[bigdave]

but se bans all the rmt so how can you willingly join a rmt cleave lol

[Vold]

Spotting RMTs isn't too hard. Just send them tells with questions. Broken english or no reply = look for the next cleave shouter.

[Mirage]

but se bans all the rmt so how can you willingly join a rmt cleave lol

SE doesn't catch everything instantly.

[Alhanelem]

Okipuit's point is they're not going "oh, looks like RMT, BANHAMMARD!", an investigation is conducted (e.g. to see if the gil is being funneled into RMT bank characters, etc...)

So if you're not selling the gil, you're safe.

[Kraggy]

Spotting RMTs isn't too hard. Just send them tells with questions. Broken english or no reply = look for the next cleave shouter.

Because, you know, legit players on global servers can all speak perfect English.

[Kincard]

They generally can't speak French, German, or Japanese either. Unless you're one of the very very few legitimate Chinese-speaking players (They do exist, but even then they generally know a passable amount of either English or Japanese otherwise they can't get anywhere in the game) I doubt you'll have a hard time telling they're struggling with answering you.

Still, there's plenty of RMT operations run by English-speaking players anyway (a lot of big companies are run by US companies in one way or another), so that's not really a foolproof way of ensuring you're not supporting RMT or whatever.

[Kikorimo]

Thank you Okipuit.

Something else you can do is check their auction house purchase history. If you see that they are spending a few million gil on a single bronze bullet, pretty good chance that they are RMT moving gil. (I say buying on the off chance a legit player put one up for 1 gil and RMT screw up and buy from someone for that much instead of just moving to another RMT character... could happen, and would make me laugh (assuming person who got "lucky" doesn't get banned in the process because of RMT gil ending up in their hands over it...) But yea, I've seen some people who, if you check their buy/sell history, you can tell they're RMT from a mile away.