Quote Originally Posted by Kikorimo View Post
I was just returning to play after being offline for some time to focus on college when I noticed this:
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While I like that RMT are still tasting the fiery wrath of the banhammer, what concerns me is that the post seems somewhat vague. I have participated in non-RMT parties that power leveled people who paid us gil for compensation for our time so that we could afford to buy some better gear in the past. (In other words, no RMT involvement at all, we were just working to make our characters better by performing in game work for in game rewards, similar in concept to simply doing a quest.) However, it sounds like this post is saying that doing this in the future will cause non-RMT to be banned as well. So, I am asking for clarification on this from the development team/GMs. Does Square Enix intend to ban non-RMT players for requesting in game compensation for time and effort spent? I myself don't feel Fell Cleave party shouts to be any more disrupting than shouts to put together Voidwatch parties or any of the other random server banter. Heck, I would have thought that was the original purpose of shout (to put together groups, make known an offer for item/service, etc...) and that chat filters were added for a reason.

Thanks for your time, and clarification on this would be greatly appreciated.

(Banning for making use of shout to put together parties is silly in my opinion though...)
here's your clarification: they're banning people who shout to sell cleave parties for 500k (where the party is actually actively in progress and they have a bot/agent shouting in town for it). I've tried, and most of these shouters do not respond to anything other than "I'll buy." If you shout for this, you're likely putting your account at risk- but most likely its only aimed at the cleavers who have another character autonomously shouting around the clock.

I see cleave shouts all day long and i do consider it disruptive. Many of these people are RMT, as have been demonstrated by the few I've actually gotten to respond to tells and chat.

Does Square Enix intend to ban non-RMT players for requesting in game compensation for time and effort spent?
You would cleave anyway, inviting someone to leech isn't affecting your time and effort spent. I think the prices people charge for this are insane. You can level to 99 in a couple days with or without a cleave party, so why pay for something you can get for free?