Question for Devs regarding cleave

[Vivivivi]

No, if you knowingly join one, or join one that obviously is one.

How would you tell the difference? I don't know!

Things that are usually a dead giveaway: little or no rare/ex equipment, no linkshell, and character names that don't make much sense.

[bigdave]

but se bans all the rmt so how can you willingly join a rmt cleave lol

[Mirage]

but se bans all the rmt so how can you willingly join a rmt cleave lol

SE doesn't catch everything instantly.

[Vold]

Spotting RMTs isn't too hard. Just send them tells with questions. Broken english or no reply = look for the next cleave shouter.

[Kraggy]

Spotting RMTs isn't too hard. Just send them tells with questions. Broken english or no reply = look for the next cleave shouter.

Because, you know, legit players on global servers can all speak perfect English.

[Alhanelem]

Okipuit's point is they're not going "oh, looks like RMT, BANHAMMARD!", an investigation is conducted (e.g. to see if the gil is being funneled into RMT bank characters, etc...)

So if you're not selling the gil, you're safe.

[Kincard]

They generally can't speak French, German, or Japanese either. Unless you're one of the very very few legitimate Chinese-speaking players (They do exist, but even then they generally know a passable amount of either English or Japanese otherwise they can't get anywhere in the game) I doubt you'll have a hard time telling they're struggling with answering you.

Still, there's plenty of RMT operations run by English-speaking players anyway (a lot of big companies are run by US companies in one way or another), so that's not really a foolproof way of ensuring you're not supporting RMT or whatever.

[Kikorimo]

Thank you Okipuit.

Something else you can do is check their auction house purchase history. If you see that they are spending a few million gil on a single bronze bullet, pretty good chance that they are RMT moving gil. (I say buying on the off chance a legit player put one up for 1 gil and RMT screw up and buy from someone for that much instead of just moving to another RMT character... could happen, and would make me laugh (assuming person who got "lucky" doesn't get banned in the process because of RMT gil ending up in their hands over it...) But yea, I've seen some people who, if you check their buy/sell history, you can tell they're RMT from a mile away.

[bigdave]

rmt is cause by the demand of the user not the supplier so if they remove the need then no rmt would ever open up shop again

[Mirage]

I find that the non-fodder RMT characters have a bit less nonsensical names than usual, and lack of ex equipment could also just mean they're a recently abyssea burned legit character