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    No one cares about their STR, VIT, or anything else, they just don't wanna die instantly from bullshit attacks, thats all they are asking for...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    No one cares about their STR, VIT, or anything else, they just don't wanna die instantly from bullshit attacks, that's all they are asking for...
    No, it really isn't all they're asking for. Or else they would say (as its been said by me and at least one other person) that players need at least 5% HP across the board. This is about the other character stats, but people do not want to admit they think its the reason they do less DMG.

    Here's my queue:
    If everyone here has already agreed that players should all be at higher HP (since the scaling of HP is borked post-75)... then what's the argument about?
    Or is HP not the only reason to be against race stat differences? I think Tarutaru having less STR/VIT than say, Hume; or Galka having less DEX/AGI than Mithra, is intentional and relevant to the game-world sociopolitical backdrop....
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    If you can't out-claim someone who's AFK, you need to find a new game to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llana_Virren View Post
    No, it really isn't all they're asking for. Or else they would say (as its been said by me and at least one other person) that players need at least 5% HP across the board. This is about the other character stats, but people do not want to admit they think its the reason they do less DMG.

    Here's my queue:
    If everyone here has already agreed that players should all be at higher HP (since the scaling of HP is borked post-75)... then what's the argument about?
    Or is HP not the only reason to be against race stat differences? I think Tarutaru having less STR/VIT than say, Hume; or Galka having less DEX/AGI than Mithra, is intentional and relevant to the game-world sociopolitical backdrop....
    It's simple really. Many players rolled taru's back in the day either cause they were cute or they wanted to play mage jobs. That or they rolled Hume to "play it safe". That worked fine and was a great thing back then, I remember feeling a little regret on choosing Elvann due to the INT, DEX and MP hit I took.

    Flash forward, it's now 2012 and melee spam with STR WS's is all the rage. Magic damage and MP has taken a decidedly smaller roll in the overall strategy of the game. Monsters now use high damage AoE attacks and you need high HP and a good DT/PDT set to survive. What used to be a liability is now a minor foot note, and what was a minor foot note has become a major bonus.

    People who chose Taru, or even Hume want to get the benefits of Elvann / Galka without having to give anything up. An across the board HP boost would raise all boats and those players don't want that. They want to be "the best" and don't want their race becoming a liability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelix
    Ragnarok's aftermath is only 5% crit rate, even with lv99, so there's almost no point in using Scourge, you just spam Resolution. Even then you become just a boring meathead DD.

    Apoc with both Catastrophe and Entropy gives you crazy sustain of both HP and MP. With the Haste aftermath you can wear a ton of -PDT and solo almost any 75 content.
    Doing damage is for WAR's, DRK is about soloing 75 content yo.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llana_Virren View Post
    No, it really isn't all they're asking for.
    Perhaps you should go back through this thread and learn what they want because yeah, HP is about it... OP has not posted in 10 days, last post was on page 6, since then basically everyone who was posted has wanted HP changed, so far as I can tell they are all smart enough to not care about other stats, especially if it would mean since they want all stats flatlined, they get nothing, rather than just wanting and getting HP.
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