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    Player TheTrueMarth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    That's why we want it changed. I'm not really sure why you think being like every other MMO is a selling point.
    Because if every race had the same stats, we might as well be playing an MMO were all characters are Hume. Delete Taru, delete Galka, delete Elvaan and Mithra. The whole point behind different races is to have different options, not just cosmetics. That's one thing MMOs have in common for good reason.


    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    No video game start screen should ever feature a selection process that will haunt you for upwards of a decade and no, everyone did not pick appropriately. Why the hell would a person who just picked this game up know enough about the game to determine that the choice of race they made at start up is going to be good for the next ten years? Have you played this game? It's huge and it changes continuously. If you happen to be on a race that is good for your job of choice then you got lucky.
    I've been playing the game since NA relese. I picked Hume M solely on the fact the stats were balanced. I knew Elvaan had more STR, I knew Galka had more HP/VIT, I knew Taru had more MP/INT. I knew Mithra had more DEX/AGI. I picked Hume for the stats. It's not unheard of for someone to actually study before making a decision. I've never once regretted Hume or wanted to change.



    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    And for the record: I don't care what topic you are discussing or who you are discussing it with. If your answer to any problem, ever is "if you want that then you should go spend weeks/months/years re-gearing / re-leveling a new character..." then you are wrong. Plain and simple. Wanna know the fastest way to make a person give up FFXI forever? Tell them to start over. Some people will do it. Most will not.
    If people are going to complain and beg "Papa SE" over the smallest things like this, maybe MMOs aren't for these people. There are more and far bigger things to deal with other than "My Taru can only do 3100 damage when an Elvaan can do 3300". You find ways to deal with it and cope or you don't.
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    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTrueMarth View Post
    Because if every race had the same stats, we might as well be playing an MMO were all characters are Hume. Delete Taru, delete Galka, delete Elvaan and Mithra. The whole point behind different races is to have different options, not just cosmetics. That's one thing MMOs have in common for good reason.
    You're sorely mistaken if you think that people won't choose different races anyways despite them all having the same stats. Some people just think tarus are cute. Some guys wanna look tough on galka. Some guys wanna roleplay on a mithra. There are already genders, hair types sizes etc. Why doesn't any of that bother you? It's fine for an Elvaan to be stronger than a taru because they are bigger right? But why isn't the large Taru stronger than the small model? Doesn't seem fair to me. I say make them all equal. There are plenty of jobs to try. You won't suffer an identity crisis. I promise.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheTrueMarth View Post
    I've been playing the game since NA relese. I picked Hume M solely on the fact the stats were balanced. I knew Elvaan had more STR, I knew Galka had more HP/VIT, I knew Taru had more MP/INT. I knew Mithra had more DEX/AGI. I picked Hume for the stats. It's not unheard of for someone to actually study before making a decision. I've never once regretted Hume or wanted to change.
    Good for you. I'm glad that the stats you wanted also happened to be on the character model that you like. For other people the two things don't always line up. I picked Hume for the same reasons as you. Unfortunately I actually like galkas better, but couldn't choose one because I wanted to play a mage class. Not fun.

    Studying for 20 years isn't going to change the fact that people who prefer the taru model will have to choose between shitty melee stats and shitty looks. I could understand having varying stats if we were able to change our races like we change jobs, or even if we could only change them once in a while. But knowing that people have been stuck with these choices for years on end makes that whole stat difference more of a nuisance than a perk.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTrueMarth View Post
    If people are going to complain and beg "Papa SE" over the smallest things like this, maybe MMOs aren't for these people. There are more and far bigger things to deal with other than "My Taru can only do 3100 damage when an Elvaan can do 3300". You find ways to deal with it and cope or you don't.
    Perhaps the same could be said of you. I don't think you get to decide who MMOs are for and Who they aren't for. People who play this MMO want to be able to play whatever race they want without it impacting their ability to play the game. Maybe you need to cope with that (although I'm not really sure why you are against this other than to be a nay sayer out of principal) or just don't play?

    If they put this into effect, you are still free to gimp your stats through gear if you really miss that lower stat feeling. People who want higher stats cannot easily do that. People should be better at this game because they are better at the game.

    And for the record: This game is almost entirely about doing 3300 damage instead of 3100. You wouldn't have stats at all if it wasn't.
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    Last edited by FrankReynolds; 12-07-2012 at 10:34 AM.