Money

[joker_balade]

I'm a new player, totally new, just joint last month, playing on and off between work

Now I realize that the high speed leveling path the game currently have, could make new player like me, gimp

So, Im about to hit 50 in a bit, and still using level 10-ish body due to the expensive price in AH.

Which bring me to the question, what is the best "honest way" to get money
craft?
gatherer?
farming?

thanks

[Caketime]

If you're feeling squirrely and have a couple of buddies, the Under Observation BC is lucrative.

[Luvbunny]

You won't have to worry about gears, most of the good ones you will have to farm. Abyssea gears and accessories are very decent to have, the plus 2 sets are still one of the best ones. You also have options to farm relic gears and turn them into the plus 2 version and then the voidwatch ones. Not to mention Meeble Burrow, Legion, Neo Nyzul, Neo Limbus, Neo Einherjar etc....

The best advice I can give you is to farm crystals, if you so choose. Level all your starter jobs to 15-20 solo in nearby cities area using exp ring while farming crystals and craftable misc items. Saruta Cotton still fetch a nice 8k price, Silk Thread around 15-18k. Getting 6 jobs to 20 or 30 (if you do Windurst area and Buburimu) will get you quite a handful of starting money, probably easily 100-200k just selling stuffs. Or do quests and sell those scrolls, which is not good if you are mage, though you can rebuy this later. All those tele scrolls plus the recall scrolls, warp, warp 2, aspir, drain etc are still fetching good money. Gear yourself with artifact set, which is still somewhat decent. Do campaign and use those purchasable allied notes gears if you want for around lvl 60s, you can also do the campaign ops, which is a nice way to supply the notes. At level 78 you can get the abysea basic starter gears which are very decent to tide you in while you are farming your empyrean sets.

The thing about returning and restarting is the job choice. Ideally you should have a good starter job. My suggestion would be to level WHM, it is very needed, on all aspect of the game. The Maat battle is ridiculously easy. At 61 you can get into Abysea party even if you have no refresh atma, those temps items will get you far. Two or three abysea session will take you to level 80s easily and net you around 100-200k cruors. You will need a good 5-8 abyssea session to go back and forth between limit break and max out your merit on WHM. As casual player, I can level WHM from 1-95 in one week. Then just have to find a group for limit break 99. If you have WHM testimony, you can do abysea from 61-70, warp back to Jeuno, still in alliance, do the battle, within 10-15 mnts back to your abyssea party and get to 75, warp back to unlock merit point, go back to get 30 merits, go back to jeuno to get to 80, get back to abysea and get 1 xp to 76, leave to Jeuno again for limit break, and you are good to go from 76-85. Then repeat the same deal for next round from 85-95

The other job that is very good to level is Beastmaster. With the right atmas, one of them is ducal guard atma, somewhat doable to solo duo, with no need to proc red. With Beastmaster you can later solo your abysea seal farm (not too great but better than none), you can do dynamis farm (awesome income), you can solo most of the missions, you can solo some BCNMs (good income). The downside is beastmaster not quite needed for Voidwatch and Legion. But you can still solo the older contents, you can use it for old Nyzul and Meeble Burrow. Beastmaster is also good job to have for the limit break 99.

Other jobs you may want to level, which is somewhat in high demands would be BLM, War, Mnk, and Sam. Another good soloer is Summoner. Thief is always great, Banish 3 which is farmable is 100k. Aero 4 is 200-400k depend on price fluxtuation. Tons of other scrolls can be sold for 10-20k and thief can farm them all. You can skill ups in Boyahda Tree and farm Tree Cuttings and Boyahda Moss. You can sell those geodes, fire, wind and earth still fetch decent price.

Another good thing once you have one melee job at 99, either thief, dancer/thf or beasmaster/thief is to farm pop items from Abyssea. Some of these range from low 10k to 120k depending on demand. The 10k-50k are easy solo. All 9 abyssea zones have some high demand pop items, mostly for zone boss and empyrean weapon. If you can put 7 items that averaging 30k each, thats a tidy 200k ish. Also you can sell augmented gears, Konstacht abysea has dark ring that fetch 30k selling to NPC. Even gathering augmented gears from La Theine worm party can get you 100k easily grabbing those headpiece selling at 13k each.

[Monchat]

I'm a new player, totally new, just joint last month, playing on and off between work

Now I realize that the high speed leveling path the game currently have, could make new player like me, gimp

So, Im about to hit 50 in a bit, and still using level 10-ish body due to the expensive price in AH.

Which bring me to the question, what is the best "honest way" to get money
craft?
gatherer?
farming?

thanks

Always have signet cast by guards and sell cristals. At 4000 gil per stacks you'll make pocket money really fast. Don't bother with BCNMs or crafting, because you need (a lot of) luck. Cristals are a guarranted income for starting characters, enough to buy basic gear and food.

[Mirage]

When you're new to the game, I would suggest, as people have already mentioned, selling crystals, and also perhaps stacks of crystal clusters. Certain cluster stacks sell for up to 60k on my server. Other things to be on the lookout for are various types of geodes. Flame geodes sell for a lot of money, and some of the others also sell for enough for it to be worth selling on the AH.

When you get enough beastman seals to do Royal Jelly (you need 40 per attempt), that thing can drop some scrolls that sell for several million gil on my server. However, getting 40 Bseals takes a bit of time with the current alliance-based fast leveling. Monchat is right in that it requires some luck, but over several runs, the chance of having gotten at least one valuable scroll is relatively good. On my server, Utsusemi: Ni sells for 1.4 millions now, and Phalanx sells for 1.6M. Each Royal Jelly gives you roughly one 15% chance to get Phalanx, and two chances to get Utsu: Ni at ~11% and 18%. Even if you don't get the best drops, RJ still has a few "consolation prizes" in the form of a few items that sell at 30-100k gil, and Absorb-STR which sells for about 450k. All prices are taken from the Sylph AH.

Other than that, stuff like silk threads from crawlers are kind of valuable. Crafting can be profitable, but it will be a long time until you see a lot of money from that. It is better to think of that as a long term investment, might not be the best thing to get into for a brand new player who has a limited income.

[Doombringer]

BCNMs can be a crapshoot, but they're salvageable if you have a group you can trust.

do a sell/split.

agree beforehand that all big ticket items will be sold and then the money shared evenly between all participants. between 6 guys you're bound to get SOMETHING worth some good money. that way you avoid the issue of potentially having 5 guys get nothing and watching the sixth walk away with millions.

downside, you REALLY need to be able to trust these people. i only do sell splits with long time friends and ls mates, never as a pickup group deal. if you're just starting out you may not have a reliable network.

[Meyi]

Take Thief up to at least level 15 (45 if you're feeling bored and eager to farm a lot) and go after Goblin Thugs in East Sarutabaruta and Outer Horutoto Ruins. The tower you want to farm in and around is at (J-11). These sell (on Bismarck) for 30k a stack and they're very quick to farm. The goblins are level 1~8, so you should be able to level up on them while also farming the onions.

Or if you're a Bastokan kind of guy you can farm Beehive Chips from bees around Gustaberg. These sell (on Bismarck) for 13k a stack.

You could also try crafting, but it's not really necessary. You need high level crafts to really start profiting from it. They are initial gil sinks.

When you reach level 99 Dynamis solo is great gil.

[Economizer]

Which bring me to the question, what is the best "honest way" to get money
craft?
gatherer?
farming?

There are a lot of good ways to make money. Lots of suggestions in this thread so far.

But while I strongly suggest you check the prices on FFXIAH (and learn how to know when to list something, how to list it, and generally just get a feel for the game's economics), I think I can make the case for crafting as another option for you to make gil.

Now, obviously, the single best way to make gil is to level to 99 so you have more options of how to make gil, so regardless of how poor you get, don't forget to keep getting those levels.

Now these players try to discourage you from crafting:

Crafting can be profitable, but it will be a long time until you see a lot of money from that. It is better to think of that as a long term investment, might not be the best thing to get into for a brand new player who has a limited income.

You could also try crafting, but it's not really necessary. You need high level crafts to really start profiting from it. They are initial gil sinks.

Crafting is a slight investment, you put in crystals and ingredients that you don't put in while farming, then you hope they sell at the AH. But once you get past that small hurdle (selling crystals if all else fails), you can turn it around into an easy but guaranteed payout.

Remember to check FFXIAH for AH prices, and FFXIclopedia for NPC prices and recipes. Always check prices. Always.

With no crafting skill whatsoever, you can immediately start by making Copper Ingots. Buy/farm the fire crystals, then either go to the Goldsmithing Guild shop in Bastok, or find an NPC that sells Copper Ore for 9~15 gil, buy four, craft them, repeat until you have a stack. Sell the stack on the AH for profit, but watch for flooding the AH with them.

If you skill up high enough you can take some spare Copper Ingots and turn them into Copper Hairpins to level your Goldsmithing a level or two to bridge (save one for test item) to Brass Ingots (buying those Copper Ore from the guild, and Zinc Ore for about 1k AH, then crafting them together). You can then sell these as well as continuing to make the Copper Ingots (which sell faster) for profit. Once you hit 9 Goldsmithing, you can even craft your Brass Ingots (at a loss) to Brass Ingots -> Brass Sheets -> Brass Scales, then Brass Ingots -> Brass Hairpins (save one for test item). At this point you can start turning Silver Ore bought from the guildshop into Silver Ingots and sell them on the AH at a profit.

Of course, if you want, you can just make Copper Ingots for a bit of short term profit and jump to a different craft at any time, especially if Goldsmithing isn't your thing.

Another way to make money would be to take a few stacks of Dark Crystals (or a few Dark Clusters), Windurstian Tea Leaves, and Distilled Water (or a Water Tank) out to Konschtat Highlands, preferably with THF or /THF for Treasure Hunter, and kill Sheep for Sheepskin. Turn the Sheepskin into Sheep Leather, which sells for a nice profit on the AH.

Crafting is great for making other things you farm worth more money. If you find that something sells for a lot, look into why it sells for a lot, then see if you can profit from that. This is how you'll stay rich without relying on a guide.

Oh, and you might want to try your hand at Fishing. If you can stand Fishing, it will make you money from the first day onward. It isn't technically a craft in the same way as other things, but it is definitely worth looking into (make sure you fish on a 20+ job on an account that is at least two weeks old).

[Meyi]

Now these players try to discourage you from crafting

Not true. I was merely informing him that crafting takes awhile before it starts to become profitable. Many crafts have it set up so that products made result in less gil than the ingredients cost. Especially recipes where one must HQ to overcome this hurdle (ex. Silent Oils).

If he is just starting out it's difficult to have the gil for armor, weapons and spells, let alone money for raising craft levels.

Crafting is a slight investment, you put in crystals and ingredients that you don't put in while farming, then you hope they sell at the AH. But once you get past that small hurdle (selling crystals if all else fails), you can turn it around into an easy but guaranteed payout.

Crafting requires specific recipes at specific levels. One does not simply put in any ingredient and expect a profit out of it.

With no crafting skill whatsoever, you can immediately start by making Copper Ingots. Buy/farm the fire crystals, then either go to the Goldsmithing Guild shop in Bastok, or find an NPC that sells Copper Ore for 9~15 gil, buy four, craft them, repeat until you have a stack. Sell the stack on the AH for profit, but watch for flooding the AH with them.

Yep, this is a good craft for beginners. Hadn't thought of Copper Ingots. Brass Ingots (level 9 goldsmithing) are also great gil in stacks. And they sell pretty fast. You mentioned turning them into sheets and hairpins, which is a good idea if he's deciding to level goldsmithing. But again, it's a gil loss and so not the best idea if he's trying to make some quick money without having to spend it to make it first.

Hence why I told him to consider holding off crafting until he has enough money in his pocket to consider it.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

I'm a new player, totally new, just joint last month, playing on and off between work

Now I realize that the high speed leveling path the game currently have, could make new player like me, gimp

So, Im about to hit 50 in a bit, and still using level 10-ish body due to the expensive price in AH.

Which bring me to the question, what is the best "honest way" to get money
craft?
gatherer?
farming?

thanks

Now that you're 50, do your AF quests, they're free unless you lvled a TAU job. If you're a melee, your weapon is more important that any other gear slot obviously. Invest your money there. Heavy DD, get a hauburgeon(59?). Light melee, get a scorpion harness. Mage, it realy doesn't matter at all, just pile on MP and get a light staff for healing. All of this can be obtained very cheaply. You'll want to get some aby time in so you can purchace the cruor gear in teh late 70s. It's cheap and effective. Use it until you can outfit yourself better once you reach 99.

As for money, fishing is slow and sometime the initial investment can be a little high, but NPCing fish has always been rather lucrative.