Fast leveling in Parties - hot spots

[Ceinwyn]

It definitely is harder, because the infrastructure is worse. That's not a bad thing though. If you can't find five people to level the way you want, then it's a good thing SE removed that option, because obviously it isn't popular.

I can aggre on this point with Eyeballed since i loved the lv grind.
It made the game enjoyable because u could always just log in and lv ure favourite jobs.
You was able to meet new people and effectively play with em in a 6 man group.
There was teamplay all the way, every job had its uses and u had something to do,
also there was nothing to hold u back from exploring vana'diel.

Nowadays, u just leech ure job up to 99 like a idiot with a IQ of 10 within few days and then u can hunt
some unnecessary lv 99 gear pieces aka wow style after u've finished ure af gear.
That's what the the game has turned into and it's incredible sad.
And i think they main reason noone is doing old style partys because it's senseless with abyseea out not that it isnt welcome, like eyeballed already said most people who enjoyed the game already left anyway with some coming back sometimes, like me, hoping for a change but i can't see much enjoyable in this game anymore.
I will be glad for clarification if there is content i'm missing who isnt totally senseless and worth the time, where u can play in partys, talk to people, have a challenge with some kind of exploration,progress and just have fun. I think such content has become incredibly rare.

All these resulted useless low lv areas and resulting useless crafts,gear and only a proof to me that SE
1. has got no idea what they are doing to the game or and this is more likely
2. just wants to finish it with some kind of "we have enough of this game, lets just do what we want and see what happens, if it fails, people who dont lke will go to ffxiv anyway and the addicted with no life will stay anyway, lolz" statement

Actually I'm hoping for FFXIV being good but we'll see. I'm hoping for a bright future tough.

[Arcon]

I can aggre on this point with Eyeballed since i loved the lv grind.
It made the game enjoyable because u could always just log in and lv ure favourite jobs.
You was able to meet new people and effectively play with em in a 6 man group.
There was teamplay all the way, every job had its uses and u had something to do,
also there was nothing to hold u back from exploring vana'diel.

None of this is even remotely true. You could not just log in and level, sometimes you had to wait days to get invited to a party. On the other hand, that is possible now, because you get more EXP solo than you got in an EXP party back in the day.

And many jobs were not welcome. BLM were shunned from parties, SMN were only used as healers, and only if nothing else was found, and weak DDs never even had a chance. BST and PUP were prejudiced out of the entire system. It was very exclusive and many jobs did not have their uses.

There was no teamplay, if people sucked the entire party disbanded, idiot tanks moved away from Trick Attack, idiot WARs didn't voke off healers, red mages thought they should DD, everyone just did what they thought was right, and often no one had a clue.

And how is the current system stopping you from exploring Vana'diel? Or are you referring to the camp hunting, because everything halfway decent was taken all the time?

I will be glad for clarification if there is content i'm missing who isnt totally senseless and worth the time, where u can play in partys, talk to people, have a challenge with some kind of exploration,progress and just have fun. I think such content has become incredibly rare.

Then what do you call Voidwatch, Limbus, Abyssea, Einherjar, Legion, Meeble Burrows, and literally every event ever? Every event that isn't EXP, that is, because except for the "talking to people" part, none of what you mentioned applied to EXP. There was no challenge, there was no exploration, you only went to the same camps in Valkurm > Qufim > Jungle > Garlaige > CN > Kuftal/QSC > Birds. Before WotG and Level Sync, that is, afterwards it just because Valkurm > Qufim > Jungle > Garlaige > Birds > different Birds > different Birds > different Birds. At best.

Question to you, have you ever even done anything that wasn't EXP?

Nowadays, u just leech ure job up to 99 like a idiot with a IQ of 10

Reading this sentence feels pretty ironic.

[Ceinwyn]

Question to you, have you ever even done anything that wasn't EXP?

Not much.
Because i enjoyed the lv progress and now where its gone...well...
I'm not a fan of endgame content in generel to be serious.
I like beautiful areas, atmosphere, teamplay, to lv different jobs, do some quests and missions.
I could still do this solo but thats kind of boring without other people.

Maybe it wasnt perfect, maybe not every job was happy like bst and smn or blm because
of the usual colibri in mid to endlv but at last u could still log in and look for group and if u would get lucky u would join a party and kill some vt-it mobs in a low man group and while u look u could do something else.
With a tank, and a healer, maybe a supporter and some dd's.
You would hang around a bit and get a few lvs.
Next day, maybe u go valkurm with a lower job and do the same.
U get the idea, different jobs, no ep kills, teamplay not abyssea la theine the whole way.

Just because some people dont teamplay doesnt mean there wasnt any btw and little exploation better than none SE could have improved this by changing areas or mobs so more are intresting but of course they didnt.

It was a simple changing entertaining party of the game i enjoyed most.
The game took a bad direction in my opinion but i guess some enjoy the actual meta for whatever reason.
There are plenty of better games with more features and the same as ffxi since it headed this direction of speed lvling.