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    Player Tennotsukai's Avatar
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    NNI post update

    Hey Blu's, with the next update in the works that will likely nerf sch's wonderful 2hr, do any of you believe there is a chance Blu will be a more wanted job inside NNI? Even now, I do so much better than most other DDs I find it hard to believe we're not asked for in shouts. Any ideas on this?
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    BLU doesn't get asked for in NNI because most BLU suck, thus the job "sucks". Prior to the update BLU is a powerful job that brings utility to NNI but unless people you're going with know you for being a good/great BLU you won't get in. Post update this won't change.
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    Ignorance and the average skill of current blu's will not change with the pd/brava nerf. So, no we will not be sought after post-patch. I'm sure this varies by server, but on Leviathan there's about 5-10% of blu's that could actually handle NNI properly.

    The leaders of shout groups don't want to have to weed through a dozen terribad blu's before finding a good one, so they just go for the jobs with less variability from player to player. And the rest just fail to see how blu has changed since 75 and neglect everything the job has access too now.

    Looking at future NNI setups, brd will probably replace 1 sch, but other sch will still have a spt (for regenga, buffs, some nukes, etc.) Another possibility is cor, but they take longer to set up their buffs, so this is debatable (but offer decent damage output themselves). With capped magic haste and DW3, blu is just short of the delay reduction cap, where 2hander jobs will only be at ~70%, in favor of us. We also have the ability to aid in curing, which is a boon of embrava that will be lost. This is probably our biggest gain versus other DDs for an NNI slot, and the brd would be able to pianissimo 1 refresh song to help with that extra mp going out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    BLU doesn't get asked for in NNI because most BLU suck, thus the job "sucks". Prior to the update BLU is a powerful job that brings utility to NNI but unless people you're going with know you for being a good/great BLU you won't get in. Post update this won't change.
    Basically this.

    A properly built / played BLU/WAR is awesome in NNI and brings much needed utility to an otherwise stacked DD lineup. After the update people will just replace one SCH with a BRD doing double march's, you get the same basic results but takes slightly longer to buff. The BRD will have to stay at the pole and the SCH will be running after whichever team of DD's doesn't include the BLU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelix
    Ragnarok's aftermath is only 5% crit rate, even with lv99, so there's almost no point in using Scourge, you just spam Resolution. Even then you become just a boring meathead DD.

    Apoc with both Catastrophe and Entropy gives you crazy sustain of both HP and MP. With the Haste aftermath you can wear a ton of -PDT and solo almost any 75 content.
    Doing damage is for WAR's, DRK is about soloing 75 content yo.....

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    Thanks guys...Any words of advice on good strategies I can utilize as blu in NNI? I figure that AoEs are helpful in kill all floors. What about gear? What's better: hybrid evasion or DD?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennotsukai View Post
    Thanks guys...Any words of advice on good strategies I can utilize as blu in NNI? I figure that AoEs are helpful in kill all floors. What about gear? What's better: hybrid evasion or DD?
    DD as a BLU/WAR. Proth has a decent post on ffxiah related to various BLU builds you can use. Get Requiescat to 5/5 and make a set for it. BLU's primary contribution is versatile damage types and AoE damage, you can do Blunt, Piercing, Slashing, Magic and then Req to by pass PST. Benthic Typhoon, WoR and Empty Thrash are all good AoE's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelix
    Ragnarok's aftermath is only 5% crit rate, even with lv99, so there's almost no point in using Scourge, you just spam Resolution. Even then you become just a boring meathead DD.

    Apoc with both Catastrophe and Entropy gives you crazy sustain of both HP and MP. With the Haste aftermath you can wear a ton of -PDT and solo almost any 75 content.
    Doing damage is for WAR's, DRK is about soloing 75 content yo.....

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    well personally after the nurf I see blu mnk drk sch brd and one other probably another mnk or a cor being the ideal set up. most people would say war should still be in there, but without embrava your not going to get that same penny for a pound ratio that made war such a monster in there, think drk will stay in there because alot of them have relic scythe( high serviablity) and a powerful great-sword(high dmg pot). also on a nice side note to blu mnk drk, all of them have ways to get around dmg resistance
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    Player Tennotsukai's Avatar
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    Checked it out...pretty good info. I hope you're right metaking. I have an old nyzul group that's about to start doing NNI. Hope they take my blu instead of my sch. SCH is fun...but BLU is way better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennotsukai View Post
    Hey Blu's, with the next update in the works that will likely nerf sch's wonderful 2hr, do any of you believe there is a chance Blu will be a more wanted job inside NNI? Even now, I do so much better than most other DDs I find it hard to believe we're not asked for in shouts. Any ideas on this?
    Most of the group/static go with friends/ppl they know and their best geared DD jobs, unlike events like Abyssea/VW with procs that certain jobs are necessary. BLU is not better nor worse than other popular DD jobs such as DRK WAR SAM DRG etc, as each job has it's own strength and Nyzul isn't 100% about pure output, but have other factors too. If ppl you want to go have a well geared BLU, go for it. If not, there's no need to push to fit in one.

    Also /shout for NNI? Only JPs do that tbh.
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