To Devs: Salvage / Mythic Suggestion

[Kincard]

Pchan's argument doesn't work even if he was right in his assumptions, you might as well say it's fine to make relics easier to get because Claustrum sucks. Doesn't work that way.

Yes, Ryunohige DRG is about on par with a Ukon WAR. That's not the point. The point is that the weapon makes a job that is regularly not even in the same bracket shoot up several places in the DD heirarchy to become competitive. I can't think of any other weapon that does that. Ryunohige is a ridiculously powerful weapon. Don't mistake flaws of the job's design with a flaw of the weapon, this is something pchan has failed to grasp even though people have tried to hammer it into him over the course of several discussions about DPS jobs.

That, and his simulations gears pretty much every job but MNK retardedly.

As for OP:

#1: Lower entrance requirements for normal salvage to 1 player.

Not happening, at least not anytime soon. Aside from Neo salvage being added, the real reason salvage requires 3 people to enter is because of congestion considerations, and the salvage areas arn't really tailored to be redesigned as open-entry normal areas like the Dynamis ones were.

#2: Let High Tier VW enemies drop low tier salvage alexandrite pouches(5-20 alex per pouch)

Not going to happen because Alexandrite has nothing to do with VW. Should be apparent to anybody that knows game lore as far as the the nature of the Alzadaal Undersea Ruins goes. Won't elaboate here since it's technically a spoiler.

#3: Lower requirement for alexandrite by 1/3rd.

Nope

#4: Let ToAu NMs drop Pouches of some sort, giving an alternate means to obtain these without calling 2-3 friends to help you.

The only NM that would make any sort of sense dropping items like this are Armed Gears and maybe Wulgaru. If they ever did it they'd probably make them drop single-piece alexandrite and it wouldn't do anything. Actually, even if they dropped Cotton Coinpurses it probably wouldn't be worth farming them just for the Alex.

#5: or finally make alexandrite drop from ALL enemies in salvage.

Probably not likely. They made gears in salvage all have very different drop rates on alexandrite so they probably weighed it a while before deciding to not have normal monsters in salvage drop the stuff in the first place.

As always, I'm amused by how people who can't complete mythics can't seem to just go get a relic/empyrean instead and feel the need to say that mythics have to be made easier simply for their convenience.

[Demon6324236]

The point is that the weapon makes a job that is regularly not even in the same bracket shoot up several places in the DD heirarchy to become competitive. I can't think of any other weapon that does that.

KKK so far as I know.

[Afania]

As always, I'm amused by how people who can't complete mythics can't seem to just go get a relic/empyrean instead and feel the need to say that mythics have to be made easier simply for their convenience.

I don't understand this part either. The only ppl that have right to complain about Mythic difficulties are DRG mains. This job is literally pointless to get invite without Mythic, but with Mythic it's really good due to angon benefiting whole ally.

Every other Mythic totally doesn't add much to your LS for current content. A WAR with 99 Ukon/99 rag should outperform Koga SAM and KKK PUP in current endgame scene last time I checked, what other game breaking Mythic are there? Other Mythics just doesn't add much, so why not just get 99 Ukon/Rag if you have money to toss and want to add more value to your LS?

Other reason I can think of for wanting easier Mythic: 1. You just damn love your PUP SMN DNC BLM SAM etc, even though you know you will job change for events.

2. You want Mythic to show off.

If it's No.2, the moment Mythic lower it's difficulty it losts it's value. If Mythic is made easier, and everyone have one, then showing off won't mean much. You'd want Mythic as hard to get as possible if you want to show off.

If it's No.1, still pretty pointless when ppl gonna bring 99 Ukon+Rag for everything anyways, and doesn't really hurt you without Mythic. If you're not getting invite on DNC or PUP because lv 99 Ukon/rag WAR taking your spot, you're still not going to get invite with a Mythic.

[Kincard]

KKK's great for job functionality but the DPS boon it adds isn't actually a huge boost over Verethragna last I checked. Actually, if anything KKK might actually lower your DPS since the idea is that with it you can maneuver more freely.

As far as Mythic concept goes, I'd say that weapon's the best (only?) example of it, because it actually makes the job better at what it does without being all about pure damage, which was the whole concept of mythics to begin with. In contrast, look at something like Kogarasumaru, which is a really powerful weapon, but it's purely because of the aftermath and how it relates to SAM's natural abilities and not the special stat they put onto it (lolthirdeye).

[Demon6324236]

I thought between the MA bonus reducing your delay by even more than the weapon itself adds as well as the WS on it being the most powerful PUP WS there is would put it above Vere.

[Afania]

Why don't we just lv WAR, make a lv 99 ukon and lv 99 rag(which is still cheaper than any Mythic) to fulfill everyday DD needs, and gtfo from pointless Mythic discussion? ;D ;D ;DDDDDDDD

[Jaall]

Why don't we just lv WAR, make a lv 99 ukon and lv 99 rag(which is still cheaper than any Mythic) to fulfill everyday DD needs, and gtfo from pointless Mythic discussion? ;D ;D ;DDDDDDDD

Sorry just gonna chirp in here, there are quiet a lot of people who play ffxi who have lives which is why not everyone can can make a lvl 99 ukon/rag. I know this discussions mainly about mythics/relics etc but the majority of players can only make 1, and want to have fun playing the job they like, not a job they don't like. It seems like you're the type of person who won't invite if no relic/emp, as you said drg is pointless without mythic. I hate to break it to you, but you couldn't be more wrong, but I'm not gonna go into any more detail just like to say - research. There are a lot of places where drg has a "point" and if you weren't so stuck in your ways that certain jobs are better, maybe you would see that. Elitists really do annoy me and that's fine, its my opinion, but seems so many people are getting to the point where it's the best or nothing.

[Afania]

It seems like you're the type of person who won't invite if no relic/emp

And no, I still invite none relic/empy DDs depending on situations and who I can get, but I don't invite just anyone. If I'm doing T3, I invite pretty much anyone, of course none gimp relic/empy takes priority. If I'm doing prov or legion, the only none relic/empy DD I'd take is OAT DRK, unless that DD is a friend of mine and really needs clear + ally have enough DD already, or unless that DD happened to be able to parse high without a relic/empy(which is rarely). I collect parse data as much as possible for every prov/legion run, and I've seen enough DDs in various performance in my life, including gimp relic/empy, I can even "rank" each indiviual DDs I pt with based on my database. I don't need you to tell me who can DD and who can't when you're probably not even on my server and don't know most of the DDs on this server.

Now you're probably going to call me elitist again, mind you I don't own any DD job, nor have any elite DD weapon such as Rag/ryuno/ukon, so I don't say this cuz I look down on other ppl when I don't outparse WAR myself(I don't even care what gear other ppl have, I only care about performance). I simply value my time, and entire ally's time. I aim for 20~30 min clear for full prov KI BC+ dragon to save everyone's time, not 4hr run with double wipe like a lot of PUGs that don't pick their DDs. If you want to blame me for being "elitist", blame those who are in ally wanting a fast and efficent Prov run, and goes fake d/c if ally wipe, not the /shout leader, who simply just try to fulfill every ally member's wishes.

Protip: If you want to complain about DRG without mythic not getting invite, instead of ranting here like an ass and calling others elitist and not knowing the job, be nice and more polite, you'll make more friends and get more invite that way. I do invite a lot of friends/lsmate when I make VW pt, even if some of their performance doesn't fit standard. Most of the time getting invite is more of a matter of connection.

[Jaall]

I'm not here to make friends but i'm not being an ass here you are. You're exactly the reason why the games no fun because it takes being amazing to please you, that is all I am saying. DRG with relic is not better than most dd's I was wrong there and I admit that but it's almost as good or on par with and the only reason relic DRG isn't better is because most war's have ukon, most drk's have rag etc etc. And lastly I think you're getting me all wrong. I moan that the games getting to the point where nobody can join anything unless they have no lives because it takes the fun out of the game for the people who are to an extent. But what really gets me is other people saying you're a terrible player because you play the game how you want to and not how everyone else tells you to. Just because I play DRG main i'm classed as a bad player because I don't have war or drk and drg is, as you say, "pointless".

Saying all that i'm not too fussed in game because I have a decent geared BLU so for endgame I go on that, to get the gear for my DRG. And point of the post is to make mythic easier, to the point where those with a life can get one. Which would balance the game a bit yea, so I'm going to change my opinion, make mythic easier than relic. I know they wont but if they did the game would probably be much better due to people like you stating drg is pointless, same goes with pup and all the other jobs that benefit from mythic, who otherwise get no say in what events they can join just because they parse slightly worse.

[detlef]

Based on what I'm reading, I would suggest directing your efforts toward petitioning for making DRG more powerful rather than making mythic easier (which would affect all jobs).