Something strange in dynamis, possible 3rd party tool?

[tyrantsyn]

Thread turns out to be a miss understanding.

Which in turn becomes a BST bashing thread

Thread continue's for another 20 to 100 post

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[Arcon]

I'm just amazed that people still try to cry about BST when we all know by now that procs affect drop rates far more than any level of TH and our Pets' previous TH levels had very little actual influence on drops, [..]

TH has a significant impact on it, actually. One item is guaranteed, while all others are subject to TH just like any other regular item drop in the game. Just because procs affect it significantly it doesn't mean TH doesn't. Whether or not it's worth damage loss or not is a different question.

[Caketime]

TH has a significant impact on it, actually. One item is guaranteed, while all others are subject to TH just like any other regular item drop in the game. Just because procs affect it significantly it doesn't mean TH doesn't. Whether or not it's worth damage loss or not is a different question.

Procs > Damage, damage loss is a non-issue since procs have such a large impact on whether or not you get the shiny anyway. I'd be more concerned with too much damage personally, mobs are squishy, it's not like they're any different than standard trash. Anyone taking the time to proc will net a great deal more currency than BST ever could with Yuly or Falcorr and mob hoarding over the course of a session. I'm pretty sure the only reason you're arguing is because of your bias against BST in general, but don't feel bad, it's OK to be jelly.

[Arcon]

Procs > Damage, damage loss is a non-issue since procs have such a large impact on whether or not you get the shiny anyway.

I meant sacrificing damage for TH, not for procs. The whole "TH pet versus damage pet" debate.

I'm pretty sure the only reason you're arguing is because of your bias against BST in general, but don't feel bad, it's OK to be jelly.

I'm not arguing.

[Caketime]

I meant sacrificing damage for TH, not for procs. The whole "TH pet versus damage pet" debate.

TH pet versus damage pet is an interesting debate but not one that's easily applied to dyna due to the goal being different from "kill all of the things as fast as possible". Instead we're trying to get procs, and pets are not very good at doing that, they're either dealing damage or standing around. Ready moves proc, but not often, so it's mostly up to the BST to JA proc or get a lucky WS and that means a lot of down time for the pet in which it's not performing its function. If I were given a choice of what pet to bring to dyna I'd choose Nazuna + biscuits and use her as an Enmity dumpster, and since she's not attacking I could stack up DD gear instead of Pet haste for attack rounds.

[Sephiran]

It's not fair or rational to Trick Attack all the hate onto a a single job. People steal monsters and that's a reality. While I personally don't do it, I can understand people doing it if there's hoarding going on.

I avoid the problem altogether by doing WS procs and fighting different mobs that other people don't want. Since I do this on PLD, it's pretty easy to hoard safely and securely. In this fashion, I get to have my cake and eat it too while everyone else gets to do the same.

[Vivik]

LV 97 DNC All Solo - Real Xp 4 Real Players only.
Skill up while lv up = ^^ All XP outside of Abbysea = ^^
NO ABY EXP=^^ NO PL'S=^^ NO ALT'S=^^ 80-200+ EXP PER 1-2+MINS= AND NO B.S.=

I bet you have your "mentor" status up 24/7 too.

[Dragoy]

QuickRelease21,

I bet the look on your face was priceless, when the charmed group went relentless. ^^

Well, that was already explained, and as for being able to claim more than one monster at a time... look at it from the other perspective: imagine another player doing just that. Now imagine there aren't that many monsters around. Now imagine several other players doing that. Would you still be having fun?

The way they had it in FFXIV was rather interesting, but it would require quite a lot of work for it to work in FFXI. With that said, one monster per one player character is what works.
Sure it is rude to 'steal' monsters, but I think it is the lesser evil. I personally have never had a problem with it, and I never do it myself. I don't believe in karma, but if I see people get knocked out by something like Sobek for example, I'll keep it for them, raise them if needed, and let them finish what they started or help them accomplish that even.

I guess I tend to go by treating others as I wish myself to be treated by others, and it has worked thus far.

But I digress.

Point being, I don't think you have thought the wish fully through. ^^;


Blubb.

[Vicious]

BST's are usually the main one's hoarding mobs in dyna so people just pick on them, but everyone does it at some point.

Actually, if you're staggering mobs that you're not directly engaged to and killing, you are doing it very wrong.

[Caketime]

Actually, if you're staggering mobs that you're not directly engaged to and killing, you are doing it very wrong.

THIS 1000x