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    Player Annalise's Avatar
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    Annalise
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    Bismarck
    Main Class
    WHM Lv 99
    Odin is pretty useless. It's not a bad idea to get him, but he really doesn't see any practical use.

    Red Mage I would say is the preferred sub. Refresh for self as well as convert is nice. I basically never run out of MP anymore. While solo I have 3/tick refresh before refresh, 6/tick with refresh. Sch may have some uses for weather if your perpetuation set is really bad.

    After 80 the bloodpact wards get some nice buffing.

    Garuda's is great for movement speed.
    Leviathan's is a pretty potent AoE attack down.
    Shiva's is pretty potent AoE Evasion down.
    Ifrit's is enfire that does ~43/hit at 99
    Ramuh is AoE stun, it can last a really long time, it's really good
    Titan is great, AoE buff Earthen armor, if something hits for 75% of life or more, damage is reduced by 45% (stacks with bard song, up to 95% total combined)
    Carbuncle is AoE multiple status removal, useful at times
    Fenrir ward is useless
    Diabolos Ward is pretty bad. Low accuracy and expensive dispel
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    Player Sargent's Avatar
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    Sargent
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    SMN Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Annalise View Post
    Odin is pretty useless. It's not a bad idea to get him, but he really doesn't see any practical use.
    Odin's still useful on HNMs ou can't zerg down with PD/Embrava (i.e. Arch Omega/Ultima, I imagine Odin II). After the SP update I can see Odin > Astral Conduit being a very useful combination for a quick burst of damage on these mobs.

    As was said, sub RDM in terms of sub job, working on AF3 is good but please don't consider it the "be all and end all" in terms of SMN gear because it just isn't (and too many people think it is). In terms of Magain stavees, work on a Pet:MAB staff and probably Thunder Perp staff (Ramuh is more or less the preferred Avatar in terms of Endgame for Thunderstorm/Shock Squall), the MAB staff in particular is easy to obtain. Also work on upgrading your Relic Armour to +2 because all pieces are very useful.
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    SMN99/SAM99/DNC99/PLD99/THF99
    Summoning magic skill: 545
    Hvergelmir 90

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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Arcon
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    PLD Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Sargent View Post
    Odin's still useful on HNMs ou can't zerg down with PD/Embrava (i.e. Arch Omega/Ultima, I imagine Odin II). After the SP update I can see Odin > Astral Conduit being a very useful combination for a quick burst of damage on these mobs.
    Using Odin can only be done once, as it will remove the Astral Flow status. Unless you were referring to Odin > other Avatar, which would work, but regular DDs will still be preferred for Odin II.
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