voidwatch shouts

[Zagen]

Actually, considering how many people I've seen say that they were just helping for the cruor, it kinda does

Pretty sure the smiley was supposed to imply sarcasm or at least I sure hope so.

[Kriegsgott]

Pretty sure the smiley was supposed to imply sarcasm or at least I sure hope so.

101% right!
the other side of the story would be "blame all the people for being lazy and stubborn or dont care about your wins" or something like this

[Luvbunny]

Voidwatch shouts are still happening very often in Bahamut server. Most of the time. People still need those gears. Clearing some tiers may be a bit harder to gather group, but this is where you use all your gills from chocoblinker to buy weakening item. It's not that difficult. As always, if you are willing to lead, and stomach the shouting for 30-60 mnts gathering people and waiting around, nothing is impossible. Read up, and be knowledgeable, do your research, and know what to do/expected of you. It is worth it, trust me. Stop being a sheep, and use the internet to google information. So many people are lazy and just waiting to be spoon feed information and extremely under prepared and did not even do the neccessary cut scenes.

[Secondplanet]

Voidwatch shouts are still happening very often in Bahamut server. Most of the time. People still need those gears. Clearing some tiers may be a bit harder to gather group, but this is where you use all your gills from chocoblinker to buy weakening item. It's not that difficult. As always, if you are willing to lead, and stomach the shouting for 30-60 mnts gathering people and waiting around, nothing is impossible. Read up, and be knowledgeable, do your research, and know what to do/expected of you. It is worth it, trust me. Stop being a sheep, and use the internet to google information. So many people are lazy and just waiting to be spoon feed information and extremely under prepared and did not even do the neccessary cut scenes.

I should move to your server then, I've tried several times to make tier parties and after shouting for 1hr if i'm left with less then 1 party i call it quits. As for the chocoblinkers bit i didn't jump on that band wagon, was having too much fun with VW to spend time doing it and since i play summoner all the best gear is rare/ex anyways.

[Aldersyde]

Voidwatch shouts are still happening very often in Bahamut server. Most of the time. People still need those gears. Clearing some tiers may be a bit harder to gather group, but this is where you use all your gills from chocoblinker to buy weakening item. It's not that difficult. As always, if you are willing to lead, and stomach the shouting for 30-60 mnts gathering people and waiting around, nothing is impossible. Read up, and be knowledgeable, do your research, and know what to do/expected of you. It is worth it, trust me. Stop being a sheep, and use the internet to google information. So many people are lazy and just waiting to be spoon feed information and extremely under prepared and did not even do the neccessary cut scenes.

I usually like most of the things you post but you are absolutely wrong in this instance. Popular VW shouts fill up in 30-60 minutes (on Siren... your server may vary). VW shouts which have mobs which are not-so-popular take much, much, much longer. You can be one of the most well-informed, persistent, assertive leaders that ever walked Vanadiel's pixelated landscapes, but if other players don't think it's worth their time to help (because they believe they won't get anything out of it), none of that matters.

That's the point of this thread, not people failing to take the initiative to actually lead the runs. There are still shouts. The problem is these groups fail altogether or take far longer to get to the actual fight than in the past. It was only a couple of months when you had to be fast on the draw to get into a qilin/kaggen/akvan/pil shout. That's no longer the case whatsoever.

[Demon6324236]

Yeah I have seen win runs take 6+ hours before... the sad thing is people are so desperate most people even stay in the party and wait the whole time too.

[Komori]

Shouts aren't any different on Bismarck from what I've seen.

I've still seen Morta, Ig-Alima, Qilin, Kaggen, Pil. And still see alot of tier shouts.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

... Plenty of people shout for VW. I have no clue what you are complaining about.

No, they are now virtualy nonexistant.

[Iakothm]

On asura VW Shouts are very common. As for tier climbs I see shouts for them all the time still.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

On asura VW Shouts are very common. As for tier climbs I see shouts for them all the time still.

Well on Siren, you see maybe 1 every three hours as apposed to 3+ every hour.