Dislike Button for MOD and Dev Posts Only

[Tsukino_Kaji]

I would like to formaly ask the dev team and/or forum mods for an official confirmation that they have actualy read this thread.

[Hashmalum]

So I'll jump on the dislike button bandwagon. Giving us a dislike button for all post is a terrible idea and will lead to nothing but immature greifing.
On the other hand, a dislike button for only MOD and Dev posts would allow people to better show their stance on a topic without cluttering up the thread itself.

"We are so insecure we can't stand the idea that someone might not like what WE have to say, but we demand the right to do the same for the people who provide the game and the forum." Do you have any idea just how arrogant and hypocritical that sounds? Dislikes for everybody, or for nobody.

I approve this message. Why? Because a lot of times we can't reply negatively to the DEV/REP post.

I still think it should have forced reasons even if the response is hidden and limited to a 1000 character limit.

If you want devs to really see the reaction then the dislikes with hidden responses (that users can opt to see) would be made available to even on restricted post.

If it's hidden, why bother? People will just fill it with random keyboard mashings.

I would like to formaly ask the dev team and/or forum mods for an official confirmation that they have actualy read this thread.

I hope this continues to be ignored like the childish expression of spite that it is.

[Demon6324236]

"We are so insecure we can't stand the idea that someone might not like what WE have to say, but we demand the right to do the same for the people who provide the game and the forum." Do you have any idea just how arrogant and hypocritical that sounds? Dislikes for everybody, or for nobody.

Say for instance I do not like Pchan, for that reason I would have a bias reason to say I dislike anything he posts simply because it is he who says it. If many people dislike someone, a good post with alot of good points and valid info, could end up with 20 dislikes, and 5 likes, meaning even though its good, people who simply do not like the poster could end up making it look terrible.

Posts we get from our Reps, are a different matter. Our ability to dislike their posts would show we are against a change or update that is being announced or updated, thus giving them the idea we do not like what is being done, in hopes to change their course of action.

There is a fine line between the two, its why one is actually a good idea, the other is not actually a good idea.

[Hashmalum]

Say for instance I do not like Pchan, for that reason I would have a bias reason to say I dislike anything he posts simply because it is he who says it. If many people dislike someone, a good post with alot of good points and valid info, could end up with 20 dislikes, and 5 likes, meaning even though its good, people who simply do not like the poster could end up making it look terrible.

Posts we get from our Reps, are a different matter. Our ability to dislike their posts would show we are against a change or update that is being announced or updated, thus giving them the idea we do not like what is being done, in hopes to change their course of action.

There is a fine line between the two, its why one is actually a good idea, the other is not actually a good idea.

But people are still capable of being biased against community team members and members of the dev team, either individually or as a whole. If Tanaka posted here under the system you propose, do you really think the dislikes for his post would be purely a product of his post and not dislike for him personally? When people are unhappy about the direction of the game as a whole--like they are right now--don't you think that any official post is going to get more than its "fair share" of dislikes? Biased responses apply to both player and official posts, so there is no reason to treat the two differently.

As for showing that we are against a change or update, that isn't the problem we have. Unpopular changes can be easily discerned by the tidal wave of negative responses and the high number of likes for those responses. The problem isn't that the community reps can't tell that we are unhappy; the problem is that the dev team doesn't care. There isn't any change that we can make to the forums that will change that.

Finally, we keep seeing posts from the dev team asking not to just say that we don't like something, but to offer suggestions instead. So why do you think they would have any interest in a feature that has no purpose except to give them something they specifically said that they don't want?

[Meyi]

"We are so insecure we can't stand the idea that someone might not like what WE have to say, but we demand the right to do the same for the people who provide the game and the forum." Do you have any idea just how arrogant and hypocritical that sounds? Dislikes for everybody, or for nobody.

...What? Tsukino is proposing we have a way to communicate to the Devs (with a simple glance rather than having to read 58 pages of utter logorrhea) that we dislike what they're saying. The reason we don't have 'dislikes' on the forum is so that nobody has their feelings hurt. It's similar to facebook. Dislikes don't exist because then people flame one another and dislike everything particular people write, even when they might provide something useful (just because they are who they are). It's too easy for people to troll other people, and in the end, if you don't like a post, just ignore it (whereas 'liking' is a positive feature and boosts happy feelings, and lets people know when a post is appreciated. Usually the more likes a post has, the better an idea it is).

It's NOT hypocrisy. It's saying, "we understand why the dislike function doesn't exist, but can we please return it to Dev and Forum Mod posts so we can effectively communicate our displeasure with their news bringing".

I don't understand all this rage that you have. "Childish expression of spite"? Not at all.

[Saefinn]

[edit] Didn't notice the several pages, sorry. However, I'll say...I approve of the idea.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

We is saying and what your are ignoring and/or incapable of seeing are the same thing. In that MOD/DeV posts have threads filled with negative and contrary commentary againsts the topic at hand that goes seemingly ignored. With conclusion of the company doing what they wanted regardless of what we wanted. A dislike button on their posts alone will give a more simplified and visual indicator as to what is strongly liked and or disliked. t would also give a venue to people who are not capable to strongly voicing their opinions in writing.

Also do please try to keep in mind the topic at hand when posting. This is a thread for a dislike button for MOD/DeV posts only, not a thread for a dislike button in greneral. Thanks.

[Hashmalum]

We is saying and what your are ignoring and/or incapable of seeing are the same thing. In that MOD/DeV posts have threads filled with negative and contrary commentary againsts the topic at hand that goes seemingly ignored. With conclusion of the company doing what they wanted regardless of what we wanted.

What would make it harder for them to ignore a "dislike" number than the already existing negative responses?

A dislike button on their posts alone will give a more simplified and visual indicator as to what is strongly liked and or disliked. t would also give a venue to people who are not capable to strongly voicing their opinions in writing.

People already do this, by "liking" the posts of people whose objections speak well for them.

Also do please try to keep in mind the topic at hand when posting. This is a thread for a dislike button for MOD/DeV posts only, not a thread for a dislike button in greneral. Thanks.

I'm actually in favor of a "dislike" button in general. I'm simply not seeing any reasons for limiting it to official posts that I think are good ones.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

What would make it harder for them to ignore a "dislike" number than the already existing negative responses? People already do this, by "liking" the posts of people whose objections speak well for them.

To note, if you look at dev responces in any thread, they have a major tendancy to only respond to and answer the "easy questions." Weither this is from a lack of reading(I.e. Skimming.), a lack of caring or a lack of information being passed along. We do knot know. But it has been shown in the past, simply through the existing posts along, that very noteworthy post with many likes on that go unheeded by the team regardless of their validity. A dislike button for MOD/DeV post would give more accountability to things the company representatives are posting on Square Enix's behalf.

I'm actually in favor of a "dislike" button in general. I'm simply not seeing any reasons for limiting it to official posts that I think are good ones.

Regardless, this is a thread for a dislike button for MOD/DeV post only. If you wish to voice an opinion on a dislike button for all posts in general, please do so in the apropriate thread instead of attempting to derail a different subject. Thanks.

[Ezikiel]

So I'll jump on the dislike button bandwagon. Giving us a dislike button for all post is a terrible idea and will lead to nothing but immature greifing.
On the other hand, a dislike button for only MOD and Dev posts would allow people to better show their stance on a topic without cluttering up the thread itself.

i think this more what i was going for in my thread great idea