Some new frame ideas for automatons

[katz]

Would love to see a blue mage puppet, that gets access to blue mage spells as the frame levels and have the melee capabilities.

[Dfoley]

Personally, theres a lot of neat ideas out there, but most are too complex and aren't really worth the time.

We have a ranger, blm, whm, war (pld?).

Which means all we really need is a pet with dual wield, (thf or mnk) or a pet with a 2 hander (war or sam). Something with A+ melee skill, and attack speed that scales with level (480 at 20, down to 300 at 90).

What we dont need is another ranger, or a bard, or a blue mage. With manuevers triggering spells it means we are pretty much craped out on the number of available spells any mage could cast.

[katz]

Personally, Ive never used the valours edge frame, I sometimes use the ranger frame but mainly use the blm, rdm or whm frames. I guess if you are a damage dealer on other jobs you want your puppet to be the same, my main job is rdm so I guess thats why I like the mage frames.

[Dfoley]

Naw i dont mind the idea of a blue mage, but I would rather see a full revamp of spell casting on our pets before they add another mage.

Even something as simple as:
Light maneuver: Cure > status ailments > Buffs
Ice maneuver: nuke> enfeebles
Dark: Drain > Aspir only


Then you could actually have a blue pet that wouldnt sit there and spam magic fruit and canon ball.

But until they revam spell casting on pets, I would much rather have a functional DD pet that uses melee instead of magic

[Siviard]

I agree with Dfoley, if we are to get a new automaton frame, it would need to either be a 2-hander type like a WAR frame with a GAxe and a SAM frame with a GK (which you can interchange btw....Automaton with a Soboro Sukehiro anyone?)

OR a automaton that can dual wield, like a THF type automaton which can perform Sneak Attacks (if deployed from behind) has it's own native Treasure Hunter trait, or a MNK type automaton with a native "Martial Arts" effect that increases with skill and level.

We currently have all the mage jobs covered, as well as RNG and PLD/WAR (or WAR/PLD??), our new frame should most definitely be a DD type.

[Gotterdammerung]

Needs mor bstmasta frame.

My pets pet says hi.

[Ahtos]

I didn´t read all posts but beside new frames/heads what about an upgraded version(s) of the current ones ?

[katz]

Bladeslinger X-1337

Head: Melee+1 Magic-1
Capacity: Fire+3 Wind+1 Thunder+3 Light+1
Ice+0 Earth+1 Water+0 Dark+0
Special:Store TP+10
Deployment:
-Automaton will close into melee Range.
-For Sharpshot Will use it's Ranged Attack Immediately upon Deployment
-For Sharpshot Ranged delay of 45 seconds
-For Stormwaker and Harlequin: will only cast Enfeebling Magic

Frame: Melee:B+ Ranged:0 Magic:0
Attributes:
(Lv.90) HP:1080 MP:0 STR:97 DEX:82 VIT:83 AGI:84 INT:75 MND:80 CHR:82
Capacity: Fire+3 Wind+2 Thunder+3 Light+2
Ice+2 Earth+2 Water+2 Dark+2
Special: Gains 5 Store TP every 20 levels.
Automaton gains a 5% attack bonus when Deployed against the same monster his master is fighting. (Could leave a hidden status debuff like Samba)
Uses Unique weaponskills
Melee Delay:450
Responses to specific heads:
Bladeslinger: TP threshold of Inhibitor increases from 90% to 75%

Unique Weaponskills:
Lv1: Reaving Blade: Single Hit wind Damage (Elemental, low damage), Skillchain Property: Detonation (closes Detonation off most Low Level H2H WS)
Lv50: Spinning Blade: 3 hit physical attack, moderate damage. Skillchain Property: Scission (Closes Distortion off Howling Fist)
Lv71: Grand Laceration: 2 hit phsyical attack, above average damage (600~800) Skillchain property Distortion (Closes Darkness off Stringing Pummel, Closes Distortion off Dragon Kick)

Would be neat to have new pet commands. Magic ones for which tier spell to use and Ranger ones to stay go close or stay back. They could also be used to say enfeeble, elemental,divine etc