Is there a future?

[Arcon]

I don't think Campaign would have taken off, ever, regardless of any changes. Half of the changes people suggest are just for EXP, skillup or rankup purposes, but none of them has any WotG specific rewards. It wasn't like Limbus, which had AF1+1 and Homam/Nashira gear, or Dynamis with currency and AF2/+1, sky with gods gear and abjurations, etc. Sea, sky, Limbus, Dynamis, Einherjar, Salvage, Nyzul all had relevant endgame gear that kept people playing those events, WotG had nothing comparable, hence people gave up on it.

[Kriegsgott]

I don't think Campaign would have taken off, ever, regardless of any changes. Half of the changes people suggest are just for EXP, skillup or rankup purposes, but none of them has any WotG specific rewards. It wasn't like Limbus, which had AF1+1 and Homam/Nashira gear, or Dynamis with currency and AF2/+1, sky with gods gear and abjurations, etc. Sea, sky, Limbus, Dynamis, Einherjar, Salvage, Nyzul all had relevant endgame gear that kept people playing those events, WotG had nothing comparable, hence people gave up on it.

/sigh.....
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Iron_Ram_Hauberk_Set
lots of pld had few pieces or even the full set if you had to deal with Tiamat and different stuff

[Luvbunny]

I don't think Campaign would have taken off, ever, regardless of any changes. Half of the changes people suggest are just for EXP, skillup or rankup purposes, but none of them has any WotG specific rewards. It wasn't like Limbus, which had AF1+1 and Homam/Nashira gear, or Dynamis with currency and AF2/+1, sky with gods gear and abjurations, etc. Sea, sky, Limbus, Dynamis, Einherjar, Salvage, Nyzul all had relevant endgame gear that kept people playing those events, WotG had nothing comparable, hence people gave up on it.

I totally agree with you on this. I think they drop the ball on WoTG contents, really really badly!! There is hardly any endgame gears, Walk of Echoes is actually a fantastic idea, but as usual, they are implementing it in the most horrible ways possible. Adding more WoTG BCNMs with exclusive gears would works wonder. Adding more gears at 99 you can purchase with AN would revitalize campaign. Adding WoE points for specific gears or augmenting current gears would be fantastic. So many things they can do but none they do.

To be honest WoE do have specific gears that are good. But the overall feel was just not great in comparison to all the others endgame from other expansion. When Voidwatch and Abyssea become the defacto gears, there is something clearly wrong with their game design...

[Arcon]

/sigh.....
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Iron_Ram_Hauberk_Set
lots of pld had few pieces or even the full set if you had to deal with Tiamat and different stuff

Including me. But it doesn't qualify for several reasons:
a) It wasn't endgame. I started EXPing in campaign when no one invited PLDs to parties anymore (which was around Lv60), and I had the full set before I hit 75. It requires neither high level, nor high skills, nor good gear, nor strategy. It was mainly an EXP alternative.
b) It could be done solo, and required no group efforts. It was done by people on their own, whenever they had some time off from regular events, not as a LS. In fact, with competition you sometimes made less, because I remember waves dying too quickly and people not getting enough EXP.
c) It was deterministic (no randomized drops), you could calculate exactly how long it would take you to complete, and there was no way of making it faster or slower, which means you weren't motivated to put any effort in, other than keep hitting mobs in campaign. At some point you simply had enough points and could buy it.
d) That point was not very far away. Aside from the wait time for rankups, it took very little farming to get the necessary points for it. Like I said, I got it just from EXPing regularly when I got the chance.
e) That set for PLD was literally the only good thing about it, and only if you did care enough for some additional magic defense and enmity items. It was only ever useful for high end Paladins who had everything else capped. There was no motivation for anyone else to get their respective sets, as such a large part of the community was not interested in doing it regularly, and the ones that did didn't do so for the items.

To be honest WoE do have specific gears that are good. But the overall feel was just not great in comparison to all the others endgame from other expansion. When Voidwatch and Abyssea become the defacto gears, there is something clearly wrong with their game design...

I'm actually a bit embarrassed that I completely forgot about WoE. Although that fact alone hints at its significance. WoE did indeed have some situational nice gear, and especially expensive gear, but due to its setup and its lotting rules it was never popular to be done as a LS event, but instead it became a pickup event (sometimes involuntarily).

[Luvbunny]

I'm actually a bit embarrassed that I completely forgot about WoE. Although that fact alone hints at its significance. WoE did indeed have some situational nice gear, and especially expensive gear, but due to its setup and its lotting rules it was never popular to be done as a LS event, but instead it became a pickup event (sometimes involuntarily).

There is nothing wrong with large scale events where everyone can participate regardless of their skill levels, knowledge or gears. It's democratic, in a non judgmental way. Everyone can have the same level of fun without too many invisible walls and depending on LS for helps on every single thing. I like WoE, it's fun grinding diversion, it's somewhat rewarding, and it requires not much of effort. Well hopefully they will revamp Campaign and Walk of Echoes. Looking at the way SE works, all they do is giving you half baked new stuffs, do minimal tweak, then move on to the next thing, instead of actually do a full on revision. Whoever designed the battle system and reward system of Abyssea need to get back working on FFXI. I know you don't like Abyssea, but for some reason it is one of those add ons that you just cannot get rid of, no matter how many times you wish that people just abandon the area.... there are still people camping everything over there.